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Court Decision on Washington state Governor's Race - It Doesn't Sound Good
http://www.soundpolitics.com ^ | 6/06/05

Posted on 06/06/2005 9:58:44 AM PDT by MplsSteve

OK, this thread may be partially vanity...but it looks like breaking news based upon what I'm reading on the soundpolitics web site.

Go there and read it for yourselves...but it looks like the county jdge isn't gonna allow a new election.

This looks bad for democracy.

Check it out and let me know what you think.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: democratsarescum; democratscheat; kingofcorruption; mafiaqueen; stealingelections; stolenelection; stuffingtheballotbox; thedaydemocracydied; themostcorruptstate; votefraud; voterfraud

1 posted on 06/06/2005 9:58:45 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve
Selected Stolen not elected.
2 posted on 06/06/2005 9:59:59 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: MplsSteve

When do you expect the judges final ruling?


3 posted on 06/06/2005 10:00:29 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: MplsSteve

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1417500/posts


5 posted on 06/06/2005 10:01:02 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: MplsSteve

Never mind....it's just come across ABC radio news. So sad.


6 posted on 06/06/2005 10:01:17 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: BlessedBeGod

Thank you.

I searched but didn't see the thread.


7 posted on 06/06/2005 10:02:32 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: anniegetyourgun

"....it's just come across ABC radio news"

The media celebration has begun.


8 posted on 06/06/2005 10:02:43 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Wow, what a sickening display of democracy. It's been said about elections before: the GOP must win big or it WILL be stolen from them.


10 posted on 06/06/2005 10:05:42 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Baynative

There may not exist a single judge in WA State that could have stood against the tide on this one. And you're right - now the Left has had that confirmed for them. What a blow to voter confidence in the process.


11 posted on 06/06/2005 10:11:02 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: MplsSteve

I just read the judges decision and I think it may be the first for a judge to claim he doesn't have to decide on a constitution right to fair and free elections.


12 posted on 06/06/2005 10:16:28 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: MplsSteve

So, let me see if I get this. The judge is saying Washington law permits honest illegal votes. And illegal vote to qualify as fraudulent the plaintiff must somehow devine and then prove to the court the intent of the those who cast those votes. A standard virtually impossible to meet without an admission by those who cast the illegal votes in question.

This reminds me of something....Oh! Now I recall. We all forgot about Catch-22.


13 posted on 06/06/2005 10:27:10 AM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: MplsSteve

Come on folks. Did any of you honestly expect a liberal judge in liberal Washington state to rule against the liberal Democratic governor? If so, you really do live in a fantasy world.


14 posted on 06/06/2005 10:59:10 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: kimoajax

You are close, but for the ruling to make sense, you have to insert the word Democrat behind of the adjetive " Illegal"

The judge is saying Washington law permits honest illegal DEMOCRAT votes. And illegal DEMOCRAT vote to qualify as fraudulent the plaintiff must somehow devine and then prove to the court the intent of the those who cast those votes. A standard virtually impossible to meet without an admission by those who cast the illegal DEMOCRAT votes in question.

By adding that one eight letter word, the whole ruling makes sense.


15 posted on 06/06/2005 11:05:16 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: MplsSteve
WASHINGTON STATE ELECTION WATCH: COURT REFUSES TO OVERTURN, by Michelle Malkin, June 06, 2005 11:48 AM

Decision is imminent in the Evergreen State's never-ending election challenge lawsuit.

- Stay tuned to the indispensable Sound Politics blog.

- TVW, the state's version of C-SPAN will broadcast the judge's ruling live beginning at 12noon EST.

- My friends at 570AM KVI will also provide live coverage and instant analysis.

- Seattle P-I readers are posting predictions here.

Stay tuned...

1202pm EST. Here we go. Am doing rough transcription.

Judge Bridges: I have some introductory comments I'd like to make. For counsel: Nothing I say should be interpreted as a criticism of you or your clients. I've been asked to "send a message." I'm going to decline that invitation...the voters of this state are in the position to demand that remedial measures be implemented immediately...[It will take more than] constructing new buildings and hiring more staff...[There's] a culture of inertia, selfishness...not taking responsibility, refusing to be held accountable...It's the voters who should send the message.

State Supreme Court will review what I've done and what I haven't done. They are exceedingly bright and diligent...they will use their collective wisdom to ensure justice is rendered in this case...Now prepared to make necessary finding of fact and conclusions...Unfortunately, I don't have a spoonful of sugar for either of you or your clients with respect to this decision...

Findings of fact:

[Reciting elex results] The general elex for office of governor was held on Nov. 2, 2004... 1210pm. Still reciting chronology of recount, GOP lawsuit challenge filings, etc.

1219pm. Lists a handful of ballots he determines to be illegal votes.

But neither party has shown that felon voters cast votes for governor. There is no evidence before the court to suggest if these felons voted for a gubernatorial candidate.

- 6 individuals in Pierce County voted despite being excluded via mental incompetence exclusions.
- 19 ballots cast in name of deceased persons. No evidence who cast or for whom ballots were cast.
- Approx. 875 absentees in King County in excess of those received and verified.
- 190 more in Clark than voters credited with voting.
- 14 more in Kittitas than voters credited with voting.
-77 more in Spokane County than voters credited with voting.
- 20 more in Island County than voters credited with voting.
- 45 more ballots in Stevens County than voters credited with voting.
- 45 more in Cowlitz County than voters credited with voting.
- 14 more in Adams County than voters credited with voting.
- 135 approx in Pierce Count in excess of number of registered voters

By law, a person must be registered to receive absentee. Very little evidence to show ballots counted without signature verification.

Regarding provisional ballots: No evidence to indicate who cast or whether they marked them in the gubernatorial election.

[1227pm MM REMARK: This is not looking good for petitioners.]

1230: In King County: No evidence that anybody associated with any of the candidates had anything to do with causing errors. No evidence to suggest errors resulted from partisan bias...No evidence to suggest fraud or election misconduct. There is no evidence before the court to question ballot security.

***The court finds Gil/Katz election research scientifically unacceptable...they commit ecological fallacy...leads to erroneous and misleading results. Translation: Rejects theory of proportionate deduction. Statistical methods used by Gil/Katz ignore other significant factors in determining how a person is likely to vote.

No evidence ballots changed, ballots removed from ballot box.

Conclusions:

Election contests are governed by certain general principles...Judiciary should exercise restraint in intervening.

1678 illegal votes were cast in the 2004 general election. This includes felons established by [GOP] petitioners- 754, felons established by [Dems] 647, deceased-19, double votes-6, provisional votes in King County-96 provisionals in Pierce-79, plus handful of others.

There is no evidence that Gregoire received any felon votes. No evidence of misconduct by either Gregoire or Rossi.

Petitioners were required to establish not only that illegal/improper ballots were cast and/or that misconduct occurred, but also that petitions must establish the element of causation. Sez they didn't establish...

...The court concludes that the election contest petition should be dismissed and the certification of Christine Gregoire as governor confirmed. From the election vote total of 2,812,675, there should be deducted 1,678.

Court adjourned.

Next stop: The Washington state supreme court.

Seattle Times liveblogged the court ruling as well. MSM coverage from CNN, AP, USA Today

Instant blogger reax...

Andy McDonald at Sound Politics: "As voters, we have all the power we need to make these changes, regardless of the decisions of any court, executive or legislature. Our remedy is to be more organized and to work for candidates who believe as we do. This is one election. There will be hundreds more in our lifetimes and we must contest them all. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

Matt Rosenberg at Red State says Supreme Court reversal is unlikely and assesses the ruling's political impact.

Reader Josh Cole e-mails:

In the Washington case, of course the petitioners could not "prove" their case, as they did not have the same access to the ballots as the people who fraudulently kept "finding" ballots and counting them. Had the petitioners been allowed to audit each ballot against the voter sign-in records and voter registrations, they could have effectively proved their case. However, they were left offering common sense and conjecture in their case as they were not allowed to see the evidence by the "keepers of the count."
"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes!" - Josef Stalin

So, these other bloggers may be advocating better organization next time and
better get-out-the-vote efforts, but as long they allow people who will lie,
cheat and steal to count the votes, the honest folk will never win.


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Previous:

An update on the never-ending election in Wash. state
Best. Graduation. Prank. Ever.
The Felon Swing Vote
Breaking: GOP court win in Washington
Still more uncounted ballots in Washington state
Count every (bogus) vote
Washington State: the election mess continues
Uncounted ballots discovered in Washington State
The election mess in Washington State
Count every vote?
Did felons put Christine Gregoire over the top?
A do-over in Washington state?
The never-ending election
Election drama in Washington state 11/13/04
Election results in the Evergreen state 11/3/04

-- http://www.michellemalkin.com/
16 posted on 06/06/2005 11:23:55 AM PDT by OESY
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