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Chain gangs raid Ford 4x4 dealers
The Guardian ^
| 6/5/05
| Mark Townsend and Mahtab Haider
Posted on 06/05/2005 11:00:05 PM PDT by bloggodocio
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To: bloggodocio
In Britain, transport accounts for about a quarter of all emissions that cause climate change. Long ago I knew a little poem that went "I think that I shall never see, an air polluter like a tree..."
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:02:29 PM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
To: bloggodocio
"Prospective buyers dismissed the stunt as futile. 'They are all a bunch of idiots. This will not change anything,' said one, before driving away in a Range Rover."
Ha!
Actually, my son looked at a Lotus? today that gets 60 mpg. It has a rear engine and a 6 speed manual transmission. It's also very light and small. Seemed a bit like a flying coffin.
I'm sure the environmentalists would find something wrong with it, too.
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:05:09 PM PDT
by
I still care
(America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
To: bloggodocio
A rational person would be forced to admit that there is little logic to suburban Americans and Brits driving around on their freeways in trucks designed for abandoned logging roads.
Minneapolis and Aspen, sure. LA? Hardly.
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:05:56 PM PDT
by
Restorer
To: bloggodocio
FORD???Gee, I'd sure like to care. But not when they promote gay politics.
Couldn't happen to a better corporation.
To: Restorer
A rational person would be forced to admit that there is little logic to suburban Americans and Brits driving around on their freeways in trucks designed for abandoned logging roads. And would a rational person destroy property that will cause greater environmental damage which will result in more SUV's being built to replace these damaged ones?
Greenpeace is nuts. They remind me of the slogan.... Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
To: Restorer
A rational person would be forced to admit that there is little logic to suburban Americans and Brits driving around on their freeways in trucks designed for abandoned logging roads. It's supply and demand; logic has nothing to do with it. However I would think it is more logical to drive in a vehicle that is safer than the average car than one that is not. Car accidents kill people everyday; many of them would have lived if they were driving SUVs. Life is more valuable than saving a little money on gas.
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:24:30 PM PDT
by
SwordofTruth
(God is good all the time.)
To: bloggodocio
Did anyone else read the title of the article and imagine Cool Hand Luke, Dragline and the rest of the guys driving up in a prison truck and demand a trade-in?
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:27:49 PM PDT
by
decal
(Where were YOU when AndyScam broke? Sluthering, perhaps?)
To: bloggodocio
Arrests came after more than two hours of negotiations with officers, Negotiate what?
Get a cutting torch from the dealer's body shop, and tell them to either give up the keys, or hold very still and grit their teeth...that this may hurt a bit.
To: bloggodocio
Leave 'em there for 3 or 4 days. No food, water, or bathrooms...
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:40:09 PM PDT
by
etcetera
To: Responsibility1st
You're right, Greenpeace is nuts.
That doesn't mean everything they campaign for is also nuts.
Hitler was in favor of protecting the environment and preventing cruelty to animals. (Cruelty to specific groups of humans was just dandy with him.)
That a whackjob or evil group favors a particular policy does not of itself invalidate that policy.
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:44:50 PM PDT
by
Restorer
To: bloggodocio
They should have taken the vehicles for a 50 mile drive with the idiots attached. Not over 3 miles per hour of course. Just enough to leave a lifetime impression of their monumental stupidity.
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posted on
06/05/2005 11:49:39 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Restorer
That a whackjob or evil group favors a particular policy does not of itself invalidate that policy Maybe so. But when Greenpeace or Planned Parenthood or some other "whackjob" group starts promoting some policy, then that's when I usually turn the other way.
I guess I could ask, and you might could tell me something GP has done that I might agree with, but my overall opinion of them would be the same:
Morons.
To: bloggodocio
'Land Rovers are less fuel-efficient than cars manufactured more than 80 years ago' - Stephen Tindale, executive director of Greenpeace, and fool
1924 Ford Model T Touring edition (which could be considered an early suv, considering the states of roads at the time.)
Curb Weight 1,650 lbs
M/G 20-25
2005 Land Rover Range Rover
Curb Weight 5379 lbs
M/G 12-16
Working from the bottom of the mileage ranges on each of these vehicles, we calculate the weight moved to M/G ratios for each vehicle.
For the Model T,
1650Lb/(20M/G) = 82.5 LbG/M
For the late model Range Rover,
5379Lb/(12 M/G) = 448.25 LbG/M
As you can see, the weight moved a mile for every gallon of gas is significantly higher (about 5x) for the Range Rover than for the Model T. It works out that the Range Rover is therefore about 5x more fuel-efficient than a car manufactured 80 years earlier, and that Mr. Tindale is emitting excrement from the wrong end.
Of course, what Mr. Tindale
meant to say was that the Model T would consume less fuel in taking you from point A to point B. Of course, the Range Rover will do it faster, safer, and more comfortably than the Model T. I leave it to you the consumers to do your own vehicle shopping.
see
http://www.seriouswheels.com/1920-1929/1924-Ford-Model-T-Touring.htm ,
http://www.t-ford.co.uk/car.htm and
http://www.automotive.com/2005/12/land-rover/range-rover/compare/ for references.
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posted on
06/06/2005 1:28:53 AM PDT
by
NationSoConceived
("Truth bestows no pardon upon error, but wipes it out in the most effectual manner." - M.B.E.)
To: decal
And yeah, I did think something like that at first.
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posted on
06/06/2005 1:30:35 AM PDT
by
NationSoConceived
("Truth bestows no pardon upon error, but wipes it out in the most effectual manner." - M.B.E.)
To: decal
And yeah, I did think something like that at first.
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posted on
06/06/2005 1:40:23 AM PDT
by
NationSoConceived
("Truth bestows no pardon upon error, but wipes it out in the most effectual manner." - M.B.E.)
To: bloggodocio
When will they aim their protests at celebrities and their limousines?
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posted on
06/06/2005 3:09:05 AM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: bloggodocio
'Land Rovers are less fuel-efficient than cars manufactured more than 80 years ago, and we are asking the government to tax them off the roads,' said Stephen Tindale, executive director of Greenpeace, who was present.
Hey, public school teachers are less efficient now than they were 80 years ago. Could we tax them as well? No wait, that's part of the problem already.
To: I still care
Actually, my son looked at a Lotus? today that gets 60 mpg. It has a rear engine and a 6 speed manual transmission. It's also very light and small. Seemed a bit like a flying coffin.Coffins are better built and last much longer.
To: bloggodocio
I'll take "Idiots for $200."
Eleven climate change protesters were arrested yesterday after chaining themselves to Land Rovers at the start of a national campaign against 'gas guzzling' four-wheel drive vehicles. What is "Ford announces special test drive promotion," Alex?
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posted on
06/06/2005 4:35:56 AM PDT
by
George Smiley
(This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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