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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Yes but there were no wings anywhere to be found at the Pentagon.

When the planes hit the WTC towers, they pushed through the building.

No such thing hapend at the pentagon.

As a matter of fact, no wings were found at the pentagon at all.

And if you seen the photos of the impact zone at the pentagon, the area had no wings anywhere...we were told they vaporized because of the intense heat.

Except they found superhuman body parts that survived this intense heat and made it possible to identify people who hijacked the plane. And they said they found bodies of the hijack victims. Amazing that a 757 can vaporize but the bodies and parts of bodies remain.

And in a related story, Superman was seen inside the wreckage protecting the bodies so the extreme heat that was generated by Jet A burning at temperatures exceeding the temperature of the sun which instnatly vaporized the aircraft and its engines.

And the hijackers just happend to know that the part of the pentagon that was empty would be the perfect place to attack the pentagon.

165 posted on 06/06/2005 1:58:06 PM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: Radioactive

Well I have not made up my mind one way or another about what happened at the Pentagon but about the wings.

When you saw the fireball at the WTC what was the source? Jet Fuel, where is jet fuel stored in a plane? the Wings. How much strength does lightweight aluminum wings have when subject to internal explosion? Other than the Engines there won't be much left of the wings in anycase.

As for humans not vaporizing from the burning jet fuel. Much of the cabin will hit the building before the wings and will be forward of the mass of jet fuel therefore bodies will survive. There is reasons why there is almost always bodies recovered from plane crashes. Then there is the nature of fire itself, ask any firefighter and he will tell you that fire can do freaky things, burn hotter than hell in one area yet never ignite paper a foot away. You will have hot spots where jet fuel pools and cool spots where lack of fuel or air won't support combustion.

Aircraft engines is more important evidence, we recovered engines at the WTC (actually several blocks away) and if a two engine plane struck the Pentagon then two holes should be in the building at least one ring back from the front ring and engines should be recovered since they will survive most fires.

Like I say I really don't know what to believe but if there was engines there and was the right type for the type of air plane then unless planted an aircraft struck the building, if no engines then something else happened there.


169 posted on 06/06/2005 3:20:20 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: Radioactive
Yes but there were no wings anywhere to be found at the Pentagon.

False. Wing members, shredded skin, spars, and other small, dense parts of the wings survived and were found inside the Pentagon. Parts of both Wing mounted engines, especially the machines steel parts, were found inside the building.

When the planes hit the WTC towers, they pushed through the building. No such thing hapend at the pentagon.

The curtainwall of the WTC was made of aluminum, thin steel members, and glass, no more than inches thick. The wall of the Pentagon was made of steel reinforced concrete with the windows made of 4" blastproof polycarbonate plastic. The two barriers are in no way comparable.

As a matter of fact, no wings were found at the pentagon at all.

False. See above.

And if you seen the photos of the impact zone at the pentagon, the area had no wings anywhere...we were told they vaporized because of the intense heat.

You are quoting what was never said. While some parts of the plane's aluminum did melt, many parts of the wings, as stated above were found and recovered. The fuel tanks are primarily in the wings... but the shattering of the wings spread the fuel throughout the building. The impact of the aircraft on a mass that could be described as "immovable" did far more damage to the aircraft than did the fire.

Except they found superhuman body parts that survived this intense heat and made it possible to identify people who hijacked the plane. And they said they found bodies of the hijack victims.

And some Pentagon employees survived from within the middle of the conflagration. They did not find all of the bodies... but they did find pieces of many that were identified by DNA.

. . . extreme heat that was generated by Jet A burning at temperatures exceeding the temperature of the sun which instnatly vaporized the aircraft and its engines.

Exactly where did you study physics? The temperature of the sun is about 10,000º F at the surface and 28,000,000º F in the core and 1,800,000º - 3,600,000º F in the corona... Civil Engineering Magazine, in a report on the damage to the Pentagon, estimated the fire "may have reached 1740º F (950º C)" at its hottest based on observed damage to internal columns and other structures. Aluminum WILL melt at 933º C (1711º F), but it will not vaporize.

I am absolutely certain that you will ignore these facts just as you have ignored all the other facts so that you can believe the worst of our government.

That said, I think that TWA flight 800 was shot down by a missile... because that is where the evidence and science takes me. I think that a Boeing 757 crashed into the side of the Pentagon because that is where the evidence and science takes me, as well.


171 posted on 06/06/2005 3:27:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Radioactive
the extreme heat that was generated by Jet A burning at temperatures exceeding the temperature of the sun which instnatly vaporized the aircraft and its engines.

Source, please?

173 posted on 06/06/2005 3:36:38 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Radioactive
Yes but there were no wings anywhere to be found at the Pentagon.

Just curious... when you say that "no wings were found at the pentagon" do you mean that someone has definitively stated that no wings were found at the pentagon, or just that you haven't seen picture of them?

188 posted on 06/06/2005 6:49:52 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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