Posted on 06/05/2005 6:22:17 PM PDT by demlosers
Noted French left-wing activist Thierry Meyssan's 9/11 conspiracy book, L'Effroyable Imposture, became a best-seller in 2002.
But I never imagined such an "appalling deception" would ever find a voice in America. At a recent public lecture I was buttonholed by a Michael Moore–wannabe filmmaker who breathlessly explained that 9/11 was orchestrated by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the Central Intelligence Agency as part of their plan for global domination and a New World Order. That goal was to be financed by G.O.D. (Gold, Oil, Drugs) and launched by a Pearl Harbor–like attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, thereby providing the justification for war.
The evidence was there in the details, he explained, handing me a faux dollar bill (with "9-11" replacing the "1," a picture of Bush supplanting that of Washington) chockablock with Web sites.
In fact, if you type "World Trade Center" and "conspiracy" into Google, you'll get more than 250,000 hits. From these sites, you will discover that some people think the Pentagon was hit by a missile; that U.S. Air Force jets were ordered to "stand down" and not intercept Flights 11 and 175, the ones that struck the twin towers; that the towers themselves were razed by demolition explosives timed to go off soon after the impact of the planes; that a mysterious white jet shot down Flight 93 over Pennsylvania; and that New York Jews were ordered to stay home that day (Zionists and other pro-Israeli factions, of course, were involved). Books also abound, including Inside Job, by Jim Marrs; The New Pearl Harbor, by David Ray Griffin; and 9/11: The Great Illusion, by George Humphrey. The single best debunking of this conspiratorial codswallop is in the March issue of Popular Mechanics, which provides an exhaustive point-by-point analysis of the most prevalent claims.
The mistaken belief that a handful of unexplained anomalies can undermine a well-established theory lies at the heart of all conspiratorial thinking (as well as creationism, Holocaust denial and the various crank theories of physics). All the "evidence" for a 9/11 conspiracy falls under the rubric of this fallacy. Such notions are easily refuted by noting that scientific theories are not built on single facts alone but on a convergence of evidence assembled from multiple lines of inquiry.
No melted steel, no collapsed towers.
For example, according to www.911research.wtc7.net, steel melts at a temperature of 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit, but jet fuel burns at only 1,517 degrees F. No melted steel, no collapsed towers. "The planes did not bring those towers down; bombs did," says www.abovetopsecret.com. Wrong.
In an article in the Journal of the Minerals, Metals, and Materials Society and in subsequent interviews, Thomas Eagar, an engineering professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, explains why: steel loses 50 percent of its strength at 1,200 degrees F; 90,000 liters of jet fuel ignited other combustible materials such as rugs, curtains, furniture and paper, which continued burning after the jet fuel was exhausted, raising temperatures above 1,400 degrees F and spreading the inferno throughout each building. Temperature differentials of hundreds of degrees across single steel horizontal trusses caused them to sag--straining and then breaking the angle clips that held the beams to the vertical columns. Once one truss failed, others followed. When one floor collapsed onto the next floor below, that floor subsequently gave way, creating a pancaking effect that triggered each 500,000-ton structure to crumble. Conspiricists argue that the buildings should have fallen over on their sides, but with 95 percent of each building consisting of air, they could only have collapsed straight down.
All the 9/11 conspiracy claims are this easily refuted. On the Pentagon "missile strike," for example, I queried the would-be filmmaker about what happened to Flight 77, which disappeared at the same time. "The plane was destroyed, and the passengers were murdered by Bush operatives," he solemnly revealed. "Do you mean to tell me that not one of the thousands of conspirators needed to pull all this off," I retorted, "is a whistle-blower who would go on TV or write a tell-all book?"
My rejoinder was met with the same grim response I get from UFOlogists when I ask them for concrete evidence: Men in Black silence witnesses, and dead men tell no tales.
PBS had an interview with LARRY SILVERSTEIN (The World Trade Center was leased by Westfield America and Larry Silverstein, on April 26th, 2001)where he was quoted as saying : "I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it (WTC7)." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
That building was brought down by a controlled demolition.
In “The Bride of Frankenstein,” Dr. Frankenstein stands by a big lever and announces “If I pull this lever, this entire tower will come crashing down!” I always used to think, “Then what the hell did you put that lever there for?!?!”
Of course, posts like yours have since informed me that a “building collapse” lever is just a normal part of tower construction.
I guess they come in handy in the lack of an emergency.
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So long as Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, one can imagine a rather small group of conspirators. With a bit of creativity, you can even get it down to one primary orchestrator of the whole 9/11 tragedy, who would be the only one that knows the truth about it.
But, in order to make a 757 vanish into the ether, you require a sprawling conspiracy. Who are all these people that not a single one has leaked? I don't even mean go to the media. I mean, there is not even the slightest rumor of an alternative fate for Flight 77.
Moreover, if this conspiracy is willing to crash the hijacked planes into the WTC, then why on earth not crash Flight 77 into the Pentagon? I mean, you've obviously got the plane under your control. Why go to the trouble of firing a missile or flying in yet another plane, or whatever, if you've got a perfectly good plane to crash into the Pentagon?
Think about it. You're planning to pull off this evil deed. You think to yourself, I will hijack planes and crash them into the WTC, the Pentagon, and the White House/Capital (or wherever the 4th was going), why would you then say to yourself: "Oh, but let's just make it look like a plane hit the Pentagon. Instead, we'll strike the Pentagon this way and spirit the plane off to wherever."
It just makes no sense whatsoever. Any way you dice it, there is no rational reason to just make it look as if Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
Didn't to me.
No more "compelling" than the guys in the sewer grates who shot JFK.
Well, lemme clarify that I meant "compelling" in the sense of "fascinating" and not in the sense of "persuasive"..
I'll take "Alex Jones" for $200.
Penn and Teller picked this apart on there show.
This fella had some credibility with me til I read this statement...If he ain't seen one, they don't exist...50,000,000 people have reported seeing UFO's...More people have seen UFO's than have seen the Pope...I've never seen the Pope (except on tv) 'I don't believe the Pope is real'...
Conspiricists argue that the buildings should have fallen over on their sides, but with 95 percent of each building consisting of air, they could only have collapsed straight down.
This is a totally ridiculous statement...If someone is going to discredit Moore, they better find someone else...
What about the thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon? Are you really that stupid?
This fella had some credibility with me til I read this statement...If he ain't seen one, they don't exist...50,000,000 people have reported seeing UFO's...More people have seen UFO's than have seen the Pope...I've never seen the Pope (except on tv) 'I don't believe the Pope is real'...
Conspiricists argue that the buildings should have fallen over on their sides, but with 95 percent of each building consisting of air, they could only have collapsed straight down.
This is a totally ridiculous statement...If someone is going to discredit Moore, they better find someone else...
Oh yeah....I wouldn't have gone there if I wasn't interested as well.
But the "Hitler" speech introducing the video put it in cuckoo land to start.
Yes she is dead. But did she really die at the pentagon?
The only way he knows is what the government told him.
If you see the only video ever seen on the pentagon hit, there is no way that it was an airplane that hit it.
You can speak of what we were told happend, but you do not really know what happend because you can only go by what you were told by government officials.
If you think....use your brain, instead of listening to what the government tells you, then we would have a much better government and not all the problems we have today.
Ask yourself this.....how do people who were poor flight students, fly a plane 2 feet off the ground without hitting anything on the ground infront of the pentagon? Even seasoned pilots say it they would not be able to accomplish what we were told happend. You have been hoodwinked.
You are not the only one who does this. The vast majority of AMericans believe everything they are told.
I still to this day do not buy the story of flight 800.
No way did Jet A explode in the center tank.No way....
ANd no way does a 747 loose it nose and then fly 13000 feet straight up.
Aerodynamically impossible.
We are being lied to.
If you ever see the only video of the pentagon hit released, you would also come to the same conclusion I have.
And you post your cutesy little cartoons trying to cast dispersions.
Shame on you for not at least looking into what really happend.
People like you have been responsible for Hitler, Stalin, and all the other atrocities in history because you refused to look at the evidence and come to a logical conclusion.
Usefull idiot come to mind.
First off, she was able to call him from the plane, the terrorists on at least 2 of the flights had no problems letting the hostages make phone calls.
But did she really die at the pentagon?
Thats where her body was, they did recover it.
Unless you think Ted Olson is lying about his wife.
Then again, you seem disturbed enough to probably want to harass people who lost family members on that plane in that crash or the families of people at the pentagon who lost loved ones when that plane hit them.
Which plane are you referring to here? It doesn't sound like Flight 800.
no, i don't really believe that
I've seen the video and no way can a Boing 757 fly two feet....two feet above the ground and hit the pentagon without doing much more damage.
I think you are full of BS......see the video and tell me that I am wrong.
NO way did a 757 hit the pentagon. NO way.
Where the hell are the wings? The Engines are made to withstand temperatures far greater than what happend at the pentagon fire. ANd I've seen the supposed photos of the engine that survived....it aint from a 757 that is for sure.
DId you see the neat little hole made by this supposed aircraft strike?
Where is all the parts of the plane? There should have been much more damage to the front of the pentagon.
There should have been much more damage on the highway just 300 yards away...there should have been windows in the pentagon destroyed at least 80 feet on each side of the fuselage.....look at the photos........look at them damn it........don't just sit there and be stupid.The windows are intact...where the wings should have hit there is no damage.
Look at the evidence.....why is it that the government will not release other videos of the supposed 757 hit on the pentagon?
I'll tell you why.....it wasn't hit by a 757.
And why did CNN report that there was no evidence that a plane had it the pentagon?
And why was that report squashed by the request of the federal government?
Here-here-
My brother in law had recently got out of the naval press corps- When the towers were hit, then the pentagon, he called people he worked with in the pentagon previously - They saw the plane hit-some did not make it you sir, are a kook- also, by diluting the truth with half witted consiracy theories, you are cheapening the loss of people there ( and in new york). Usually, the simplest answer is correct.
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