Fahrenheit 2777: 9/11 has generated the mother of all conspiracy theories

Scientific American ^ | June 05, 2005 | Michael Shermer

[Hatteras]

"If you think....use your brain..."

Yeah Sonny, if you can't use your brain, try Radioactive's brain. Practically brand new, hardly been used!

[Radioactive]

Yadah yadah yadah...........

[LIConFem]

"This should read "Michael Moore-Morbidly Obese Retarded Slug" "

On behalf of all Morbidly obese, retarded slugs everywhere, I would just like to say that I find your analogy offensive!!

;o)

[Paige]

Barbara Colson was on the plane as were elementary school students from Washington, D.C. You people are a trip. If you want conspiracies go dig into Clinton's past and then get back with us if you can find the time. Remember it won't do you any good. Clinton had the MSM covering for him. Oh and one other thing, have you thought about taking up another hobby such as meditation? It does calm one down.

Thanks!

[Hatteras]

"...but perception can be a very capricious thing."

Good point. I have been in security seminars where they show a scenario of a guy walking up to a cashier and pulling a gun, clearing out the register and walking away. 10 seconds later you are asked to describe the individual. The answers are as varied as the people giving them. Relating that to this case, most people when they think of an airliner in flight, they think of it at final approach speed. Approach speed is somewhere in the neighborhood of a lumbering 125 to 140 knots. This 757 was apparently at treetop level for the last mile or so at approximately 3 times that speed. (757s list a maximum speed of 494 knots and a cruising speed of 459 knots)

If you're sitting in traffic and a 757 happens to pass by at 400+ knots and snaps of the light post next to the car in front of you, I'm guessing one might think they just saw a missile pass by.

[Souled_Out]

"you might find this site interesting:

I did find the site you posted interesting and it did raise some questions in my mind.

So I went to the Popular Mechanics site and reviewed the information there to get a complete perspective.

I think that if you do the same you will see that PM is much more convincing in their presentation of the facts.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

There would have been more damage (at least in 150 feet of the center of the impact zone) because of the wings hittig the building.Also the wings would have sheared right off and would have been left outside the pentagon.

You need to learn less physics from Bugs Bunny cartoons.

[Smokin' Joe]

Usually, the spouse who accuses the other continuously of messing around either knows this is so, or is doing the messing around.

I still wonder about Oklahoma City.

[ActionNewsBill]

You people are a trip. If you want conspiracies go dig into Clinton's past and then get back with us if you can find the time.

Why is it that FReepers believe all sorts of conspiracies about Clinton, but somehow will not even consider any today?

[ActionNewsBill]

So I went to the Popular Mechanics site and reviewed the information there to get a complete perspective.

I think that if you do the same you will see that PM is much more convincing in their presentation of the facts.

That's the one written by Benjamin Chertoff, entitled "Debunking 9/11 Lies" which seeks to discredit all independent 9/11 research that challenges the official version of events.

He is a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

Nope, no bias there.

[AntiGuv]

Very interesting! Thanks for all the details. A lot of that was floating around in the back of my mind, but I couldn't quite recall it, and other parts I hadn't heard before.

[Tunehead54]

Testing ... Sorry my alt-255 didn't take ... ;-)

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http://reopen911.org/

[Rodney King]

Ask yourself this.....how do people who were poor flight students, fly a plane 2 feet off the ground without hitting anything on the ground infront of the pentagon?

I don't get it... why do they need to have flown the plane 2 feet off of the ground? They learned how to land a plane if flight school, wouldn't crashing the plane into the pentagon be just like landing the plane, but touching down 2 feet in front of the bulding, or in the building? Why did they have to fly two feet off of the ground for a while?

[darbymcgill]

"What about the thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon? Are you really that stupid?"

And what about the

"The FBI interviewed 154 "credible" witnesses -- including scientists, schoolteachers, Army personnel and business executives -- who described seeing a missile heading through the sky just before TWA 800 exploded."

why don't we believe them?

Why is it we are only to believe the egg-head scientists from PM and elsewhere? Is it because they use the all knowing "convergence of evidence" and would never overlook any credible alternative resolution? These people are never wrong, they just "didn't have all the available evidence" and they just flip their flop based on what their other egg-headed buddies have to say about their "theories". True independent thinkers, the whole lot of them.

[Radioactive]

Because that is how high the object was that hit the pentagon. It went in 2 feet above the ground parralel to the ground as per the story of the US government.

The video of the object that hit the pentagon was showing that the object was flying horizontal when it hit.

Also the damage to the building indicated that whatever it was that hit the pentagon hit it on a horizontal trajectory.

If it was a plane that hit it exactly as it was told to us, then there would have been a lot more wreckage present.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I think I agree with you, I just found it interesting that Scientific American missed an opportunity to lump Global Warming skeptics (like me) with Holocaust deniers.

[Radioactive]

OH paleeese........you my freind are a DUPA!

[Radioactive]

There were?...

I have not ever seen those interiews...and never heard anyone say they saw a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon.

Something did hit the pentagon. BUt it was not a 757.

[Radioactive]

Thats where her body was, they did recover it. Unless you think Ted Olson is lying about his wife.

Oh you mean a super duper body...one that can survive temperatures that melted a 757 almost instantly?

[Hegewisch Dupa]

Well jeez - a Radioactive source is one of the few worse sources of emissions than a dupa ;)