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This is disgusting!
1 posted on 06/05/2005 2:29:57 PM PDT by wagglebee
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It is expensive to keep adults who may not pull through in intensive care but, in their case, we do not say ‘let’s use the money for something else’.

But have no doubt, they will say just that.

40 posted on 06/05/2005 4:06:49 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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Isn't Socialist medicine grand? Life itself is subject to a cost-benefit analysis.

It's fascist. It's ugly. But it sure saves money.

41 posted on 06/05/2005 4:13:26 PM PDT by Reactionary
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This is completely heartless. I am aghast.


42 posted on 06/05/2005 4:18:05 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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What next, shall we eat our young? How's about saving them and shipping them off to Thailand so they can serve pedophile masters?

This lev of evil is beyond words.

43 posted on 06/05/2005 4:20:24 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (God Bless.)
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More evidence that Europe is marching off a cliff, spiritually as well as economically, culturally and strategically.

Baroness Warnock. What a name. Sounds like something out of Revenge of the Sith.

47 posted on 06/05/2005 4:24:13 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I'm not very dignified." - Howard Dean)
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The same eugenics morality code which the U.S.A. saved Great Britians ass from the nazis. It is an easy sell. You see the "experts" in morality now proclaim that this group of people have fewer rights to life than others. As long as it doesn't effect me, well thats ok. G.K.Chesterton warned us in the early 1900s of this. Few listened, and the holocaust was the result of turning blind eye. Now lets kill the least among us. It is hard to believe it has come to this.


48 posted on 06/05/2005 4:25:38 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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My father was born in 1912. I have no idea of how many weeks gestation.

He was born "in the veil",as the story is told. The midwife noticed some movement and cut the sac open and delivered him. He had no eyelashes and only a few fingernails were developed. They put him in a shoebox and kept him on an open oven door to keep him warm.

My Hungarian immigrant grandmother didn't know that he couldn't possibly survive so she did everything she could to keep him alive.

He was undersized until he had a huge growth spurt around age ten, he was about 5"7" as an adult and fought as a middleweight at 158 lbs as an amateur boxer.

During WW2 he worked at a Wright Aero. engine factory slinging unmachined aluminum ingots around for 12 hours a day.

He fathered three of us who are eternally grateful that there was no cockeyed liberal do-gooder around to talk my grandmother out of saving him.Amen

51 posted on 06/05/2005 4:29:42 PM PDT by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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My son was born premature. Now he's about 8-10 inches taller than any child in his class at the same age. He's also an A-student and he's one of the few children his age who I would describe as "beautiful". We are going to have a hard time keeping the girls away from him we already do. He won't have any problem either way, as he's a couple of weeks away from his purple belt and can put his old man down even if I use the bag. I had never personally witnessed a woman fight to keep a child as my wife did. I'm not saying woman haven't fought larger struggles, but I personally witness this.

That being said, I am aghast that the media gives this monster a voice.

52 posted on 06/05/2005 4:30:08 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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this is disgusting and it pisses me off on so many levels.

socialism rots from the inside out
socialized medicine is dangerous and kills more people than it helps
playing God is not a good idea

when my husband was a pediatric resident there was a neonatologist who spouted this crap ("we shouldn't save the littlest babies b/c of cost blah, blah") UNTIL his kid was born --you bet that every intervention was implemented...the hypocrisy of the left never ceases to amaze me.
53 posted on 06/05/2005 4:33:00 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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How bout those old non working slugs over 65, they get sick, off they go.


54 posted on 06/05/2005 4:36:18 PM PDT by cynicom
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Ghouls, the lot of them.


55 posted on 06/05/2005 4:40:18 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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The same thing happens here in some states the law requires it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151862,00.html


56 posted on 06/05/2005 4:46:21 PM PDT by bushisforpeace
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BRITAIN’S top medical ethics expert has urged doctors to let the most premature babies die, with treatment offered only in exceptional cases. . . . . Baroness Warnock believes Britain should follow Holland in setting an age limit below which babies would not routinely be resuscitated.

Can anyone tell me how this woman came to be considered "Britain's top medical ethics expert"? What are her qualifications?

57 posted on 06/05/2005 4:46:54 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: wagglebee; All
-Useless Eaters vs The Death Cult--
58 posted on 06/05/2005 4:48:51 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Those "experts" should be hung.


61 posted on 06/05/2005 5:16:50 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (June 14 - Defeat DeWine - Vote Tom Brinkman for Congress (OH-2) - http://www.gobrinkman.com)
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If these proposals were accepted, many scientific advances in neonatology would never happen. Since utilitarians can't accept any other argument, they might listen to that one.


64 posted on 06/05/2005 5:28:01 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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BRITAIN’S top medical ethics expert has urged doctors to let the most premature babies die ...

This used to be the norm. The famous jockey Willie Shoemaker was so small at birth that the delivering doctor placed him on the kitchen table to die. After the doctor left, Shoe's grandmother placed him in the oven for warmth. The oven, acting like an incubator, kept him alive. The rest is history.

66 posted on 06/05/2005 5:33:30 PM PDT by JoeGar
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Over the past few years, there has been a significant shift in the pro-abortion movement. They used to argue about when human life begins, viability, etc. However, they have known that high-tech imaging techniques (like the real-time 4-D ultrasounds now available) would eventually make it clear that a fetus is nothing other than a live human baby; and of course, advances in medical science steadily push back the time constraints of viability outside the womb. Consequently, you will hear little of those two issues from the pro-abort crowd these days, as they are untenable arguments over the long term.

The new infanticidal paradigm is to freely and openly acknowledge that yes, a fetus is a living baby, and yes, abortion is the deliberate killing of a baby. The argument is then moved from such matters of demonstrable fact to a supposed moral dilemma about the value of life. Since they can no longer credibly claim that they aren't killing babies, they'll say "Yeah, OK, we are killing babies. But it's justified because..." (insert some reason such as disabilities, quality of life, health of the mother, being unwanted, etc.)

They are vile, bloodthirsty people.

68 posted on 06/05/2005 5:45:39 PM PDT by Sloth (Discarding your own liberty is foolish, but discarding the liberty of others is evil.)
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England continues on as their Church does, falling into the great abyss.

Countries are judged as much as thri citizens. It is a matter of time.


74 posted on 06/05/2005 6:31:00 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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75 posted on 06/05/2005 6:31:13 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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