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Aruba Detains 2 in Case of Missing Teen
Yahoo!News ^ | June 5, 2005

Posted on 06/05/2005 5:22:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

SAN NICOLAS, Aruba - Authorities detained two men Sunday in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, who went missing nearly a week ago in Aruba while on a high school trip, the attorney general said. ADVERTISEMENT

Caren Janssen called the men "suspects" in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, but declined to provide further details. The men were not among the three described earlier by police as "persons of interest."

Police officers and three FBI agents, who are playing a supportive role in the investigation, took the two men into custody at two different houses in the southeastern town of San Nicolas, according to an AP photographer at the scene.

Police knocked on the door of one house, put the suspect on the floor and handcuffed him. Officers later detained a second man. They both were led to an unmarked police car and taken away.

Neighbors described the men as security guards who worked at a hotel closed down for renovation near where the 18-year-old blonde was staying at the Holiday Inn. Police and FBI agents searched the hotel Saturday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: missing; nataleeholloway
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To: cyborg

Some folks have never been anywhere it appears.

Aruba is more civilized than your average US city....way more.

In my day, I found that kind of boring actually.

There is a red light district in San Nicholas though.


61 posted on 06/05/2005 7:48:40 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: gas_dr

You were safer in Orangestaad than here.

Exponentially so.

That is what has folks reeling down there.


62 posted on 06/05/2005 7:50:58 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: hershey
With two being detained and with the FBI all over the island I think (hope) this will be solved soon. There are various scenarios that might come out.

1. Alcohol clouded judgment.

2. Spiked drink.

3. Naive judgment. Thinking she's safe with friends, but going away with someone strange anyway. I just saw a picture of one of the suspects on FOX NEWS. He was a black male. Years ago I read of a black convict who would attend parties and he and his buddies would hit on a white girl and try to convince her to ride with them when they went for some more liquor. If she hesitated they would work on her conscience with hints that she is racist. When she gave in and went with them they would rape and sodomize her.

63 posted on 06/05/2005 7:53:10 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Shooter 2.5
From what I read and heard she left with 3 men she had grown to know. They dropped her off at her hotel. They are not being questioned now. The two men now classified as "suspicious" are two other men, who were security guards at a nearby hotel that was being rennovated. It has not been said she went willingly with them, so I don't understand any criticism at all about this victim. Perhaps they snatched her before she got to her room or something.

However, (and I know I received lots of criticism about this before when my daughter was in school) I never let my daughter travel out of the country with any group. Nor, go to the Florida beaches at "Spring break" with friends. It was a tough battle sometimes. But her life was more precious to me than allowing her to do those things.

Experiences are wonderful, but I felt that when kids are far from home, without their families, they are more vunerable. Especially young girls who are always prey - at home or away. However, at least I tried to eliminate any extra possibilities of harm coming to her because she was out of the country without family. I know millions of kids do this without mishap and had wonderful experiences and supervision. And thousands study at colleges, etc. overseas. A friend of mine is a teacher who accompanied teens to Europe for many summers with a very well-recognized and respected travel group. I know of no mishaps, and she did an excellent job supervising them. I just never felt comfortable about allowing my daughter to travel in a group, even with chaperones, to distances far away on lengthy trips. If I could not take her to places to expand her knowledge of the world, then she didn't go. She had an opportunity to be a "nanny" for a family who was traveling, and I still objected. She resented my stubborness often, but understands it now that she is a mother.

The case of Jessica Lundsford does come to mind - the little Florida girl abducted by that animal who lived across the street from her. So I realize it can happen anywhere because the world is full of creeps. But, I just could not imagine allowing my teenage daughter being in a group that was/is, obviously, going to be recognized (and perhaps watched/targeted) as a bunch of kids without their parents. To me that just added another element of danger, and introduced the possibility of so many complications that come when children are of the country.

64 posted on 06/05/2005 7:54:40 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: troublesome creek

My Senior Class trip went to 4 years in the Navy.

I was the only one that went on it.

Never made it to Armpit Aruba.


65 posted on 06/05/2005 7:55:43 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: Kaslin

Years ago, while I was vacationing in Martinique, I met a family from Long Island who were staying in the same hotel. They had two teenage daughters, about 15-17 years old. One day they girls disappeared and were gone for over 24 hours. They returned on their own. It turns out that a local man, who seemed to spend all of his time hanging around the pool at this resort hotel, had befriended the girls and offered them drugs. This guy had offered to smoke marijuana with me the first day that I arrived. The girls took the drugs of their own volition. I spoke with the girls after the incident and they said that the drugs made them hallucinate and eventually pass out. They said that they did not believe they were sexually assaulted when passed out. But, IMHO, the girls wore bikinis when this took place so it would have been easy for them to be assaulted without much of a struggle ensuing. Nothing was done to the man but he did not come back to the hotel after the incident. The girls parents were livid about the incident but could not get anything done to the guy.

It seems that characters like this hang around resort areas looking for victims. It may be with sexually violent intent or it may be just to find someone to mooch off of or it may be to sell drugs.


66 posted on 06/05/2005 7:58:35 AM PDT by ArmedNReady (Islam, the Cancer on Humanity.)
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To: cyborg
I would bet she wasn't sober.

I don't know where her "friends" were when she needed them the most. There is NO WAY ANYONE in her group, who saw her leave with THREE guys should have allowed THAT. That was the beginning of her problems.

Venezuela is ONLY 25 miles away. Allot of women end up as prostitutes there. She's either dead or a prostitute.
67 posted on 06/05/2005 7:59:26 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

She is probably not a working prostitute as of yet - maybe still in Prosititute Training School - Pimp and buddies getting her used to the idea of Mattress Wrestling for money.


68 posted on 06/05/2005 8:03:27 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: WarEagle
That's what my hubby says, she's either fish food or has already met the Sultan of Brunei.

Same here and I agreed. We both thought the same thing. It's the PROFILE - naive, attractive, young etc..

BTW, my mother would have no more allowed me to go to Aruba on a senior trip, chaperoned or not, than she would have allowed me to fly to the moon. What's with these people? And the chaperons on this trip have to be rethinking their rules.

There is NO WAY in hell that I could have gone on that when younger. The "everyone else is going" wouldn't cut either. Stupid parents make stupid kids. Chaperons? LOL! WHERE WERE THEY when this girl needed them? Drinking too?

I'm sure this will put a crimp in the local senior trips for a while, resurrecting the local destinations. What's wrong with New Orleans and Orlando anyway?

You just have to be careful where ever you go - and especially a place like Aruba in the CARIBBEAN. It's a very sad situation. All the money in the world won't bring her back ... .
69 posted on 06/05/2005 8:05:15 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MudSlide
Yup ... prostitution would not be something she'd like. She would need some "training" etc..
70 posted on 06/05/2005 8:06:43 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: cyborg

I can't begin to know the absolute agony her parents are going through. I hope for their sake it is resolved soon.


71 posted on 06/05/2005 8:09:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: neutrino
As to why people persist in going to third-world armpits

Aruba's per capita GDP is the same as Japan's.

72 posted on 06/05/2005 8:10:09 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: nmh

BTW, my mother would have no more allowed me to go to Aruba on a senior trip, chaperoned or not, than she would have allowed me to fly to the moon. What's with these people? And the chaperons on this trip have to be rethinking their rules.

There is NO WAY in hell that I could have gone on that when younger. The "everyone else is going" wouldn't cut either. Stupid parents make stupid kids. Chaperons? LOL! WHERE WERE THEY when this girl needed them? Drinking too?

I'm sure this will put a crimp in the local senior trips for a while, resurrecting the local destinations. What's wrong with New Orleans and Orlando anyway?

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I was wondering how these young kids and their parents could even afford a trip to Aruba. Even at a group rate, Aruba is not a cheap vacation spot. I suppose the parents and the others in this school are quite affluent.

Heck, I don't mind that they could go on "senior" trips. We didn't have that in my day and at my rather low income school district. On occasion we had field trips to some local (usually historic) attractions, but my parents usually couldn't afford even the nominal fee, so I didn't go on most of them.

And to be fair, something like this could have happened anywhere, even in the U.S. In fact, from the statistics I've read, Aruba has had maybe only a handful of murders and rapes within the last year. Compare those stats with any major U.S. city.


73 posted on 06/05/2005 8:26:30 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: troublesome creek

We went to the exotic locale of Disneyland. On a bus. : )


74 posted on 06/05/2005 8:33:01 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Just one more reason to hate the government....)
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To: neutrino

As to why people persist in going to third-world armpits...I simply cannot understand it.

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Most definitely Aruba is not a third world armpit. This is one beautiful country...and it is surrounded by some of the most pristine, blue/green waters you have ever seen. The island itself is very clean too. Someone said you could perform brain surgery on the streets in Aruba...that's how clean it is. Is there poverty? Yes. But nothing like what you see in parts of Africa, for example. Heck, some neighborhoods around where I live look more third world than any poor section of Aruba. Most people in Aruba do their best, even in poverty, to keep their homes and streets looking good.

The country has done very well economically with the tourist trade. And according to statistics, while there is a thriving drug trade, violent crime against tourists is very low. I would rather vacation in Aruba than in Jamaica or Mexico.


75 posted on 06/05/2005 8:37:07 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: WarEagle

Been to Orlando and New Orleans. Downtown in either town is not a good place to be after midnight. Or before midnight, for that matter.


76 posted on 06/05/2005 8:37:34 AM PDT by au eagle
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To: Kaslin
On the Freeper Cruise a couple of years ago, my brother and I were in Carlos & Charlie's in Cozumel, and met up with some other people from the cruise. As the night went on, 2 things happened. First, naturally, we drank more and more. I remember fondly the tequila congo line and shot girls.

The second was that more and more young local men were in the club. They would be in groups of 3 or 4, and were finding young tourist girls. One of the girls we met was extremely drunk and the guys basically kept her distracted and away from the group.

Luckily we noticed and I went out on the dance floor and told her we had to get back to the ship. 3 of the 4 tried to stop me, but the fourth looked me in the eye any told me I needed to get her out of there.

Young Americans, especially women, are attractive targets. It took just that one night for me to realize, if I had a daughter I would do anything I could to keep her from traveling to many of those locations as a single woman.
77 posted on 06/05/2005 8:39:16 AM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: nsmart

My high school did not have spring break (or senior) trips but I grew up on Okoboji and going to Arnolds Park was a big deal. LOL!


78 posted on 06/05/2005 8:42:28 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: neutrino
As to why people persist in going to third-world armpits...I simply cannot understand it.

You're safer in Aruba than you are in any city in the US.

79 posted on 06/05/2005 8:42:46 AM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: fatnotlazy
I suppose the parents and the others in this school are quite affluent.

Quite affluent doesn't do the Brookies justice.

80 posted on 06/05/2005 8:44:14 AM PDT by au eagle
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