[snugs]

Too true I am sitting here listening to Sky News where they are suggesting that Jack Straw is going to announce tomorrow that we will not have a vote on the EU Constitution because of the no votes by France and Holland so effectively it is dead.

This IMHO is pack of left lies basically we take over the EU President shortly Blair does not want our referendum clouding his Presidency. Furthermore my fear is yes this Constitution is dead what they promised us a vote on, but will a new revamped one mean that our left wing government will decide on it without going to the country like was done in Germany.

[CasearianDaoist]

That is exactly what it is about.

[Morgan in Denver]

As with other proposals, here as well as there, these things rarely die. They have to be killed, and then stomped further underground to keep them from being resurrected. What I'm seeing now is various EU leaders want to move without citizen approval. That's a great way to alienate voters.

[GretchenM]

my fear is yes this Constitution is dead what they promised us a vote on, but will a new revamped one mean that our left wing government will decide on it without going to the country like was done in Germany.

snugs, we can pray that Blair uses his Prime Ministership and EU presidency to thwart those things. The heart of the "king" is in the hands of the Lord; He turns it wherever He will.