[Alas Babylon!]

As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.

[jocon307]

Watching Mehlman on MTP now. I guess it's on so early because of the Tennis?

[mainepatsfan]

Fox seems to have the best lineup today. It's too bad no one could get Liddy and Dean on the same show together.

[DoctorMichael]

ON WASHINGTON JOURNAL
Sunday, June 5th 
7:30am - Wade Henderson, Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, Executive Director & Niger Innis, Congress of Racial Equality, National Spokesman
8:15am - Alexander Haig, Former Chief of Staff, Nixon Administration, 1973-74
9am - Ralph Nader, Former Independent Presidential Candidate
Related Link: "The 'I' word" article

[demlosers]

Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.(he's back!);

I thought DUmmy Biden never left...

[Pusterfuss]

Ooooooh, please put Amnesty Int'l on with G. Gordon Liddy! I'd pay to see that.

[snugs]

As always thanks for the thread and your research in finding out who is on what

[NautiNurse]

former Watergate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste

Ben-Viniste was one of the smarmy creeps on the 9-11 Commission.

[Carolinamom]

Good Morning, AB, and thanks once again for this weekly thread.

CNN has SIX "former" folks. They never actually leave, do they?

[mathluv]

G. Gordon will be interesting.

[onyx]

I think I'm going to have to see what Liddy has to say!

[YaYa123]

Y'all want some campy fun this morning? Watch DEEP BLUE SEA on TBS.

[johnny7]

I'll watch Mehlman to see if Russert gives him 'free-pass' like he did to Deaniac. Wonder if he'll ask him if he's gay.

Looks like 'Stephie's' 'gonna have that pinkish-glow on his cheeks with Biden & Bradlee to 'service'... two-bit pimp!

'Gonna keep my ears open for this 'Impeachment' bruhaha that's set to hit the stage with Kerry this week. I heard Kondrake say that the Dem's are going with it.

[maica]

Mehlman is so articulate. Russert is quietly asking his questions, and letting Mehlman speak, because he cannot rebut Mehlman's answers.

At one point though, Russert mentioned Howard Dean and called him "chairman of the party" - I guess for Russert there is really only One Party.

I wish Dean wasn't such a coward. A face to face matchup with Mehlman would be very entertaining!

[rodguy911]

Morning AB and thank you again for the thread.

Looks like MTP may be the place to be this morning. We are getting it now. I just finished watching the first half of the show, here's what I got.

Players are Ken Mehlman,our RNC chair, and Timmy.

One of the early topics was stem cell--Mehlman tried to explain to Tim we don't want to destroy lives, to save them.

Tim raises a big rant from former Sen John Danfoth from misery(Mo.)stating that pubbies have become an arm of the religious right--quesiton is so bizarre Mehlman changes topic to deficit.

"Tim we are at war" that is why we have a deficit, we are cutting it in half.

Gay marriage Tim is upset that the log cabin Republicans are mad at us. Mehlman--marriag should be between a man and a woman, tim gets it but goes on.

As the interview proceeds it is obvious that Mehlman is a no- nonsense leader while Dean was a maniac off the topic guy with no direction.

Socha security accounts, It appears between the MSM and the rats they have successfully demonized the issue. Tim says if GW will just take personal accounts off the table--Mehlman tries to explain why we should be in charge of our own money but tim doesn' want to hear it.

This issue(socials security personal accounts)is the core of both parties. Pubbies manage your own account --capitalism

rats.--let the govt. be in charge of your money--socialist, commie like govt.

Timmy attacking the war on Iran nbc poll shows 40% think it was not worth it it 50 don't, more bogus stuff.

More koran stories from the wash post--tim, "was the Bush Administration trying to bury this story".

Downing street memo--Bush's fault he created the war, made up excuses--by now you are getting the picture, its just another attack Bush hour by the rats. Any question about where tim stood should be answered after this interview.

[dis.kevin]

Anyone watching Chris Wallace on FOX??? He is hammering this guy on from amnesty international. It's great!!!

[kellynla]

Just one more opportunity to beat up on Nixon while trying to bury the more recent Newsweek/SeeBS reporting lies.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

[Paige]

Richard Ben-Veniste was allowed to go on and on. They had Liddy muzzled. What a waste of viewing time and it once again reminded me of why I don't like Chris Wallace.

[Fishtalk]

Okay....already I got a comment.

I am enjoying all the worms involved in Watergate as they appear on the tube, beat their collective breasts and declare the "seriousness" of Watergate.

I was but a young and new voter during the era of Watergate. I was also very liberal, not that I'm proud of this fact.

Indeed I voted for George McGovern, another fact I'm not proud of.

I remember sitting in front of the TV on election night and really believing, really, really, really truly believing that McGovern would win. I thought that in the end the American public would see the truth as I saw it and surprise the pollsters.

Anyway, I was in a long term relationship with a fellow who was a conservative in the extreme. I remember putting a sticker on my car: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him."

Referring to Nixon of course.

My conservative boyfriend ripped the sticker off my car and screeched off from my house.

But even then I couldn't find much of nothing in Watergate, yes even in my overwhelming liberal zeal. Although at the time there were only three networks and I had only one newspaper, the Baltimore Sun a liberal rag, to consult.

Now, in this day of Rush and the Internet, I discover that I was right. At the time it all seemed a big brouhaha over nothing and now I realize that it was!

Although, again and ahem, I did take great pride that I hadn't voted for Nixon because hey, in those days it was all liberals had. I do remember thinking that well, even if what I read shows much of nothing there HAD to something more to it than a politician leaning on members of his administration to hide an investigation into one of the most inept breakins of all time.

I remember thinking that even if I can't find a big deal in it all, and yes I listened to the Watergate hearings, etc, that if it was enough to bring down a President then I would be smug via bumper stickers et al.

Now I realize I was right at the time but didn't trust myself because hey, the mighty WAPO said so and surely they know more than me.

Now, years later, with the scales having fallen from my eyes, I see the entire Watergate scandal for what it was.

A pathetic political witch hunt to bring down a Republican President for crimes far less than Kennedy and Johnson.

The entire matter changed the course of history and not for the better. Witness Jimmy Carter.

I'm bitter for having been fooled and I'm bitter that it's all a big pile of crap that changed lives because one haughty newspaper and two creepy reporters, helped by one sour FBI agent, created a scandal.

Also, and finally for I have waxed on enough, I lived through the crimes of Bill Clinton and this makes me very cynical.

Which is why all the breast-beating by the Watergate participants.

We've lived through Clinton and he was waaaaay worse than Nixon. Thus they are struggling to maintain and relive their relevance.

This ain't 1972 any more Dorothy.

[ThreePuttinDude]

bttt

[OESY]

Amnesty International Executive Director William Schultz: "US soldiers are torture architects.
They never provided lawyers to Taliban jihadists before shooting them on the battlefield!"