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Fewer jobs for teens this summer (due to illegals)
kingcountyjournal.com ^ | 2005-06-03 | Jamie Swift

Posted on 06/04/2005 6:57:27 PM PDT by Tarantulas

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To: OldFriend

Are you one of those people who pay $2 an hour under the table for babysitting a house full of cantankerous children?
People are not rewarded for hard labor, they are punished. They go home at night in pain from working so hard, while the ones who make money sit in air conditioned offices pushing pencils. All work is important.


41 posted on 06/05/2005 10:37:14 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: investigateworld

The problem is not the illegals as much as the employers. They would never allow their cheap labor force to be deported or themselves to be torted. They would be forced to pay a working wage to Americans, then they'd moan and whine about not making big enough profits and threaten to move their operations to Mexico so they won't STARVE to death. There are plenty of ideologicals out there willing to abolish the minimum wage, and to call you a socialist for not approving of the Mexican style class arrangement. They would rather see Americans living in shanties or under the bridge than to compensate those who make them their huge profits.


42 posted on 06/05/2005 10:42:54 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: followerofchrist; 1rudeboy; LowCountryJoe; Dane; bayourod

Oh well, just a thought... (but it would work too, hopefully I planted a seed in some aspiring lawyer type to search the fine print of the various Equal Opportunity Acts, Fair Labor Codes etc.)


43 posted on 06/05/2005 12:31:34 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: followerofchrist
So, the American labor force is exploited too. You mean there's no such thing as choice and holding out for more compensation nor starting one's own enterprise?
44 posted on 06/05/2005 2:21:24 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (50 states, and their various laws, will serve 'we, the people' better than just one LARGE state can)
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To: cyborg; OldFriend
Wow ridiculously high minimum wage??? It's something like five and a half here in NY. Imagine what that is after taxes. It's not high at all.

You are behind the times.

The New York minimum wage (New York is one of 12 states where the State minimum wage is higher that the Federal minimum wage) is currently $6.00 per hour and will be increased to $6.75 by next summer.

Minimum Wage Laws in the States - 2005

As far as taxes are concerned, a student that works a summer job at minimum wage won't be paying much, if any, tax after paying Social Security. The employer, however, has to pay L&I taxes on top of that.

Nowadays, for employers, the expense of a high school summer worker is simply not worth the hassle of dealing with a teenager.

45 posted on 06/05/2005 2:39:58 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: speekinout
I see more of them looking for internships in office situations.

And those have dried up. Our company used to hire a few interns every summer, now we don't. The work they used to do just gets done by permanent staff.

46 posted on 06/05/2005 2:47:29 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: pharmamom
"we were inundated with resumes from recent graduates with teaching degrees...unable to find a teaching position,"

Well they certainly can't blame that on illegal immigrants. In fact the anti-illegal crowd blames illegals on increased school enrollment.

47 posted on 06/05/2005 3:14:39 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bill1952
Conservatives used to laugh at Democrats because they were incapable of understanding that you can't have employees without having employers.

Now we laugh at the anti-illegals, anti-business crowd that can't understand it.

Without a plentiful supply of labor, businesses cannot expand.

States that are immigrant friendly, such as Texas and California are prospering, those that are immigrant hostile are not.

The rust belt states will never learn that the weather hasn't changed in two hundred years, only their anti-business attitude has changed.

48 posted on 06/05/2005 3:38:44 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: kstewskis
I just got a flyer for lawn services, and it says "We Speak English, and we actually show up!"

I see the same things too. And I think it tells us something about the employment market when businesses get jobs based on just those qualifications.
If there actually were many people who wanted these jobs, they'd have to sell on more than that. I'd settle for showing up - English is just an added goodie.
No one ever promises to do a better job than the competition anymore.

49 posted on 06/05/2005 4:02:45 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Our company used to hire a few interns every summer, now we don't.

Why is that?

50 posted on 06/05/2005 4:05:03 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: speekinout
Why is that?

Cost savings, and the fact that the intern jobs didn't offer any sort of path into permanent positions with the company, because we are small and hire only experienced people for the most part.

51 posted on 06/05/2005 5:36:46 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: bayourod
States that are immigrant friendly, such as Texas and California are prospering ...

Huh? California is prospering?

52 posted on 06/05/2005 5:40:51 PM PDT by Theo
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To: bayourod
Unbridled horsesh*t.

Zero facts, all pontification.

California is one of the least prosperous states in the union, heavily in debt; and has defaulted on many muni bonds. Rating? Junk.

Rust belt states remain so largely due to union stasis.
And very few are laughing, you and oneceler to the contrary.
You wouldn't know pro business crowds if you fell into one.
53 posted on 06/05/2005 7:10:27 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: investigateworld
. . . (but it would work too, hopefully I planted a seed in some aspiring lawyer type to search the fine print of the various Equal Opportunity Acts, Fair Labor Codes etc.)

Fat chance. Not many lawyers work pro bono.

54 posted on 06/06/2005 9:25:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McLynnan

This is my situation. There are NO JOBS! I'm looking for something to supplement my job that is underemploying me. I just applied at an unemployment agency. This is humiliating in the extreme. Everything requires experience, people need a zillion year degree just to work in data entry. I'm a college student who couldn't even afford the books this semester needed for my classes. I've seen so many people in the unemployment agency and even middle age to elderly people.


55 posted on 06/12/2005 8:45:52 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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