End Of Days: When America Falls

Mens Daily ^ | 6/4/05 | Bob Newman

[CyberAnt]

The only way this country will "fall" is if good people do nothing.

I don't see that happening. I see good people all over this country standing up and pushing back against the evil influences trying to divide and destroy America.

GOD did not establish America so it could "fall".

[Joe 6-pack]

"Did the population grow THAT much?"

It all started with the deregulation of human cloning.

[B.O. Plenty]

For later

[DCPatriot]

History reveals three primary reasons why countries fall,governments change and ways of life vanish.

Am I missing something here?

[AlexW]

"We have met the enemy and he is us. God save us from ourselves."

Well said...
You know we are in trouble when our own media is so obsessed with destroying everything that makes America great.

[The Duke]

The America in which I grew up certainly no longer exists. There's not a day that goes by that I don't lament not being able to provide *that* America for my children to inherit.

So, yes, I suppose that all nations do expire.

[MamaTexan]

Our founders established a system which affirmed and relied upon Natural Law to minimize the need for the codified laws of government.

True, very true.

Many Americans, in an effort to discover how government slipped its leash of servitude, have rediscovered what the Founders inherently knew.

No knowledge is truly lost. It may lie dormant and unnoticed, but it patiently waits for someone seeking it to return it to the light of day.

Knowledge is truth, and truth, like a lion, needn't be defended.

It merely needs to be released from it's cage.

:)

[prion]

So, yes, I suppose that all nations do expire.

If by "expire" you mean "change a whole lot and not necessarily for the better." It's been hundreds of years since anyone had the privilege of dying in the same country where he was born.

[mad_as_he$$]

Yup in 6 months we have gained "billions" of illegals who are now ready to become part of the militia!

[upchuck]

The Scottish Jurist and Historian Sir Alex Fraser Tyler published a collection of lectures in 1801. He advanced a theory of democracy based on historical observation:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesses from the public treasury. From that time on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."

IMHO, our country is very near the edge of the abyss. I hope and pray that with the Republicans controlling the White House and both Houses of Congress we can step away from the edge. But I haven't been heartened much so far.

The Pubies don't seem to understand that to win long term we gotta play hardball. Being "nice" may win a few battles, but it won't win the war. We need to "do what it takes to win."

Is there any doubt what the RATS would be doing if the situation were reversed [shudder].

[Trimegistus]

I'm continually amazed at how little faith many Freepers seem to have in America and its people.

We're CRUSHING our enemies abroad. Sure, they may be getting some supportive editorials and soundbites from foreign media in their "asymmetric" warfare, but in a war of words vs. bullets, the bullets tend to win.

At home, the idiots like Ward Chumphill (I cannot bring myself to link the greatest Englishman's name with him), Michael Moore, etc. -- are IRRELEVANT. The bulk of the American people know nothing about Ward C. and don't give a damn what Susan Sarandon says this week.

Our enemies at home and abroad are so shrill and fanatical because their backs are against the wall and they see a star-spangled juggernaut bearing down on them with no escape. They are the last desperate howls of dying ideologies, not cries of triumph.

Sure, the United States of America as we know it won't exist forever. But to brood over defeat when we bestride the world as a colossus, unchallenged to an almost unprecendented degree -- that shows a lack of faith and self-confidence. We're _Americans_, remember? Do you really think Michael Moore and Osama bin Laden can defeat us where George III, Jeff Davis and Robert E. Lee, Kaiser Wilhelm, Hitler, Stalin and Brezhnev failed? Our enemies today are little crawling vermin compared to the monsters of the past.

Our cry should not be "O Woe is us!" but "Onward to VICTORY!"

[infocats]

There will never be an external enemy strong enough to over power us , but we will and are willingly giving away our freedom everyday.

How true...and to that might I add, from the pantheons of anti_Americans from within.

[Joe 6-pack]

I'm familiar with Tyler's writings (esp. those two quotes) and they certainly seem to be cogent. My only hope is that, upon its inception, the U.S. and its governing principles were entirely unprecedented, rendering conclusions drawn from past observations possibly obsolete, or at least in need of significant revision.

I find the insights of GK Chesterton's "What I Saw In America," to be right on target:

"The Declaration of Independence dogmatically bases all rights on the fact that God created all men equal; and it is right; for if they were not created equal, they were certainly evolved unequal. There is no basis for democracy except in a dogma about the divine origin of man."

Abandon one, surrender the other.

[Faraday]

I'd quibble with calling Tom Friedman and Diane Feinstein extremists.

But the real danger to the country lies in the Imperial Judiciary. As long as a rule of law, democratically derived, is in place the great majority of the people will be satisfied to use democratic and peaceful means to bring about change. If the judiciary continues to impose an elitist law, morality, and ethos on the nation by ignoring/reinterpreting both the Constitution and the laws of the legislatures, then people will be stymied in their ability to mold the system and will despair of trying to reform it.

Of course, the left might try at any time to seize power. This is extremely unlikely to succeed in a nation where the 2nd Amendment is in force.

[Pittsburg Phil]

If America ever falls it will be because of the godless Democrats & liberals and the millions of illegal aliens we did not have to guts to round up and ship home.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

America will, some day, collapse and fall.

I don't see it happening any time soon (i.e., in what's left of my life or my daughter's life).

[AlexW]

"Yes, I think we're losing this country. blacks destroying our inner cities, mexicans overwhelming us, P.C., destroying our schools "

I put much of the blame on the MSM.
Do not forget, the objective of the Communist was to
take over education and the media.
They started this in the 60s and it is now what is destroying the US.

[fr_freak]

What makes many Americans think America is invulnerable to collapse or destruction? Such a belief is spectacularly arrogant.

It's statements like this that hint at a larger motivation for the author in this piece. To say that many Americans are naive in their confidence that this country is invulnerable is reasonable, although I would question even that statement, as I can't imagine, after 9/11, that even the most naive among us would claim invulnerability any longer. However, the author specifically accuses us of "arrogance", a word which is thrown out by America-bashers with great regularity. The label of "naive" simply suggests that we don't fully understand the extent and power of the danger, but the accusation of "arrogance" is one laced with an active hatred or contempt for those being accused, as if the author supposes that Americans are willfully ignoring all of the threats when they should, instead, be cowering in the corner and begging the rest of the world for forgiveness. I say to hell with this author.

[ikka]

I believe it is time for an American Diaspora - for Americans to realize that Washington DC and the state capitols are hopelessly corrupt, and that the leftist judiciary will continue to frustrate even the slight reforms undertaken; and thus to leave for other places around the globe, there to assist in the cause of freedom.

Countries on the short list, for me: Philippines, many of the eastern Europe countries (such as devoutly Catholic Poland), any place where homosexuality is frowned upon and Christianity is more than thinly tolerated.