[bert]

.....Seems you do not believe our economic system capable of reacting to loss of "off the books, under the table-low paid workers"......

I deplore the fact we can't control our borders.

Having said that, the market says the reality of the situation is that the cheap labor used to fill slots requiring manual exertion is necessary. Our citizens have determained it is better to disdain manual labor and seek exercise in a gym. A tread mill is culturally superior to physical labor.

I differentiate between justification and indicating reality of the situation.The fact is, that is the reality of 2005 in the USA,that the foreign and illegal workers are necessary precisely because our economy cannot function with out them. Our citizens have demanded a lifestyle that prohibits them from taking menial jobs.

I sympathise with your outrage with the open borders but will not accept your incorrect arguments. The America you visualize no longer exists and has not for perhaps 10 or 15 years.

[ConsentofGoverned]

"The fact is, that is the reality of 2005 in the USA,that the foreign and illegal workers are necessary precisely because our economy cannot function with out them. Our citizens have demanded a lifestyle that prohibits them from taking menial jobs."

glad you agree on open borders being unsupportable -

you missed the point about a capitalist system- if a demand is there it will be met at a price.

perhaps cost of living will increase but so will ave hourly wages as you imply cheap labor will not fill the need - than as a former business owner - you pay higher wages to attract workers - do you think this will not work in areas illegals work - from all my years working and managing in this country - if you pay enough the workers will come - if we price ourselves out of a good or service
i maintain that consumers did not need that service or they would pay for it. simple isn't it.