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To: k2blader
I agree, but Christians haven't quashed the various wrongdoers in its midst, either. It's all about individual, not group, responsibility.

Let's not create a standard for Muslims we aren't prepared to live by ourselves. If we're honest, we can't say that Christians have snuffed out all the evildoers in our midst.

I expect Muslims to stomp on the terrorists in their midst, to speak out against terror. They haven't. But most Muslims have no more say over the actions of other Muslims than most Christians do over other Christians.

It doesn't let them off the hook, it's just an observation of reality.

73 posted on 06/03/2005 7:05:26 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
If we're honest, we can't say that Christians have snuffed out all the evildoers in our midst.

You're kidding, right? If not... perhaps you can refresh my memory on cases of Christians strapping bombs to children in order to obliterate other children.

There may have been Christians that are whackjobs, but they are also roundly denounced by the rest of mainstream Christianity. Muslims do not denounce their whackjobs. They are embraced. Because they agree. The silence of Islam writ large to the evil they spawn, is deafening.

89 posted on 06/03/2005 7:24:58 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Dr.Hilarious
I agree, but Christians haven't quashed the various wrongdoers in its midst, either.

Which Christians murdered thousands of innocent people by crashing planes into buildings and supporting homicide bombers in the middle east and asia?

95 posted on 06/03/2005 7:28:19 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: Dr.Hilarious; Publius6961
B.S. Doc. May I call you Doc? Moral equivalence doesn't work on this sight. Sometime, somewhere a Christian mistreated a muslim so who are we to cast stones? What a load of crap. Talk to any person who will truthfully speak to you about the situation in muslim countries. The radicals have widespread support across the world of islam. If they didn't, they would have been flushed out and exterminated long ago.

Have we possibly uncovered a troll?

105 posted on 06/03/2005 7:44:08 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Dr. Hilarious said "If we're honest, we can't say that Christians have snuffed out all the evildoers in our midst."

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Do you suggest we start this "purge" by snuffing you out?

I agree with my fellows here that you seem to have a certain subversive intention.


107 posted on 06/03/2005 7:49:54 PM PDT by arizonaconservative
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To: Dr.Hilarious; Publius6961

Just another observation of reality.

SLAY THE NON-MUSLIMS: DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE QURAN

2:191 http://tinyurl.com/yreed , And slay them wherever ye catch them.

4:84 http://tinyurl.com/ysbhc , Then fight in Allah's cause.

4:141 http://tinyurl.com/2s5p9 , And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers.

5:33 http://tinyurl.com/2thto , The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

8:12 http://tinyurl.com/36u5p , I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.

8:17 http://tinyurl.com/2dxh5 , It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah.

8:60 http://tinyurl.com/2dxh5 , Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into(the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.

8:65 http://tinyurl.com/36u5p , O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.

9:5 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.

9:14 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,

9:23 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

9:28 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.

9:29 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been foridden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:39 http://tinyurl.com/26bg2 , Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.

9:73 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed.

9:111 http://tinyurl.com/26bg2 , Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an

9:123 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

22:9 http://tinyurl.com/32wdj , (Disdainfully) bending his side, in order to lead (men) astray from the Path of Allah: for him there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment We shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire).

22:19-22 http://tinyurl.com/32wdj , These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!"

25:52 http://tinyurl.com/3xjey , So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.

25:68 http://tinyurl.com/3xjey , Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy.

37:22-23 http://tinyurl.com/ytlpp , "Bring ye up", it shall be said, "The wrong- doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire!

47:4 http://tinyurl.com/3bwz5 , Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.

48:13 http://tinyurl.com/2t8ge , And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!

48:29 http://tinyurl.com/2t8ge , Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.

69:30-37 http://tinyurl.com/2qh7h , (The stern command will say): "Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin."


155 posted on 06/03/2005 9:18:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Dr.Hilarious; k2blader; Publius6961

Christianity has never been equivocable with Islam.

Never ever, even in Christianity's most torn historical times.

Nice try though.


Don't try to piggyback your unhappiness with Christianity onto the utter vitriol and destruction honest Islam has in mind for infidels and the West.


157 posted on 06/03/2005 9:41:11 PM PDT by wardaddy
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