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To: stremba
Why would the total disintegration of the universe falsify ID? The designer designed the universe; surely he/she/it could rip it apart, right?

Now that the universe has been created and is in process, intelligent design is unfalsifiable. Had the universe never existed for us to observe, then ID would never be up for discussion, let alone falsifiable.

I take comfort in knowing intelligent design is unfalsifiable. It should be, because it is self-evident and true. One cannot falsify the truth, but he can certainly deny it. Science operates with the given that an orderly universe exists, and orderly things are what intelligent beings design, create, and build. Intelligent stands to reason as the foundation for all human knowledge, but it need not be the object of science and more than you need be my reason and senses or I need be yours.

266 posted on 06/07/2005 11:08:33 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I take comfort in knowing intelligent design is unfalsifiable. It should be, because it is self-evident and true.

How can you evaluate the truth value of a claim when there's no possible means by which the claim would evaluate as false? What is your basis for comparison?

You don't have one. You just assume your conclusion and use it as the premise of your argument, then arrogantly proclaim yourself to be so smart because you employ a complete logical fallacy to support nonsense.

I stand by my claim. No one has presented a prediction, a test or a falsification criteria (you yourself have now fully admitted that you were lying when you claimed to present one before with your admission that ID is unfalsifiable) for ID. Now we even have one ID proponent here outright stating that ID does not meet the criteria required of a scientific theory.
267 posted on 06/07/2005 11:18:55 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

The idea that little pink unicorns created the earth last Thursday is also unfalsifiable. You should consider that ID and Pink Unicorn Last Thurdayism have the same logical truth value when you feel comforted.


271 posted on 06/07/2005 11:46:15 AM PDT by stremba
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