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To: CHARLITE

What a remarkably convoluted logical contraption, and all designed to avoid the plain and simple fact that none of this would have happened if Nixon and his administration had not committed grave crimes against the American people. They are the criminals, and they are entirely responsible for the consequences of their actions. To blame those who did no more than seek justice is ridiculous.


5 posted on 06/03/2005 5:39:49 PM PDT by kinejoshua
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To: kinejoshua

Ah--so we're back to "grave crimes." A burglary (that actually never even took place--nothing was taken) and a cover-up that just about any political being in the country would have attempted and viewed as part of politics-as-usual. Dirty tricks aren't always even little crimes.

Ethically, it was wrong to cover up, period. But what would have been the greater crime--allowing George McGovern (who, like someone else we all know, was accepting and espousing verbatim the North Vietnamese & Viet Cong peace proposals) to be elected or sending former FBI & CIA agents to look for evidence of democrat campaign finance violations? Clearly, Nixon preferred the lesser of two evils. Or maybe you don't believe that some dems in those days were seditionists and traitors. Nixon DID believe that.


9 posted on 06/03/2005 5:58:41 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: kinejoshua
.....avoid the plain and simple fact that none of this would have happened if Nixon and his administration had not committed grave crimes against the American people. They are the criminals, and they are entirely responsible for the consequences of their actions.

I have seen this sentiment posted often but I lived through all that and payed pretty close attention and I don't remember any such thing. You seem more up to date than I am so would you please remind me of all the awful things Nixon did?

10 posted on 06/03/2005 6:00:46 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: kinejoshua

"if Nixon and his administration had not committed grave crimes against the American people"

What crime did Nixon commit when Felt started disclosing confidential info to the press for which he will now benefit monetarily?


14 posted on 06/03/2005 6:30:03 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: kinejoshua

You, sir, are either ignorant of history or a troll, or both.

Nixon did not commit "grave crimes against the American people."
Watergate was a stupid, third rate break-in, ordered by Howard Dean for purposes still being guessed at--seemingly to get something to embarass the Democrats with concerning a callgirl ring operating out of the Watergate---to entertain visiting Dem bigwigs. Of course, after the fact, Dean waffled and squealed like the pig he was. He was a despicable disloyal worm. Nixon was certainly wrong to obfuscate and conceal to try to save his personnel---he should have thrown Dean to the wolves. Colson and others served time and Dean eventually turned state's evidence and made a load of money writing a book making himself a hero and damning others.

Nixon was almost paranoic, with good reason. When he ran against JFK, the election was stolen from him in Ill. by the Chicago
machine. Don't take my word for it--research that election. Of course, having stolen that election without consequences, the Dems have felt entitled to try to steal elections ever since and cry foul if not allowed to do so.

Nixon has long been hated by the liberal media because as a young Rep. he was instrumental in bringing down Alger Hiss, who was an American aristocratic blueblood, a liberal darling, and a Communist high up in our govt. Even after Russian papers have proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that Hiss was indeed a Communist working against our govt. in a high position in the Truman Admin. the lib media is mostly still in denial.

And it is certainly an historical fact that after Watergate, the national security apparatus became PC. If not directly responsible for 9/11, this certainly contributed to it.

Now, the media, the Dems, and JFKerry are changing the subject to Impeachment of George Bush. They "got" one Republican President; what makes you think they are not going after another one?

vaudine


16 posted on 06/03/2005 6:48:51 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: kinejoshua
To blame those who did no more than seek justice is ridiculous.

Vigilante justice..

19 posted on 06/03/2005 7:35:10 PM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: kinejoshua
To blame those who did no more than seek justice is ridiculous.

Isn't it interesting that Hal Holbrook has a role as a vigilante in both "The Star Chamber" and "All the President's Men"?

THE VIGILANTE MINDSET
Vigilante thinking is precisely the opposite of any notion of fairness, fair play, or a chance for acquittal.

  Vigilantes do not care to wait for the police to finish their investigation, and they care less about any court's determination of proof. 

What they do care about is justice -- quick, final, cost-effective justice. 

To a vigilante, punishment should be inflicted upon those deserving of it at the first opportunity -- no waiting, and the more severe the punishment, the better. 

21 posted on 06/03/2005 8:16:55 PM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: kinejoshua
How old are you and why do you assume that you actually know the facts about Nixon's presidency ? Public school graduate and an escapee from DU, are you?

The ONLY "crime" Nixon committed was the cover-up. He should have burned the damned tapes and be done with it.

THERE WERE NO "GRAVE" CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, you toll.

Felt is NOT a "hero" and neither are Woodward and Bernstein; who were NEVER "out to seek justice". And then there's Hillary Rodham, who did EVERYTHGING in here power, to suborn the Constitution and ALL of our laws, to bring down President Nixon...to the shock and to this very day, consternation and anger of her superiors.

22 posted on 06/03/2005 8:26:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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