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Was Mark Felt Really Deep Throat? - (more questions about Woodward & Bernstein's motivations)
A.I.M.ORG ^ | JUNE 3, 2005 | CLIFF KINCAID

Posted on 06/03/2005 2:01:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Mach9
Haig would NEVER have betrayed the troops in SEA or country of South Vietnam.

What does that have to do with Deep Throat and the Watergate investigation?

21 posted on 06/03/2005 2:30:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: CHARLITE; xzins; fortheDeclaration; editor-surveyor; bondserv; All
?W. Mark Felt was "Deep Throat's"....control and voice..."Deep Throat" was on the White House Staff.

naaaaw

....While in the OLD..."Hoover's FBI"....UNDER Mr. Hoover,.....

....what religious denomination did Felt claim on his OLD FBI personal (for the record) FBI files?

....Felt may not 'claim' any today,...but,...for sure,...Felt claimed one WHILE UNDER 'service' to Mr. Hoover!!!!!

....exactly,....what does Felt's OLD file state for 'cover' purposes while 'faithfully serving'....'J'...?

....there is a real story here,....for sure!

....he was NOT Jewish,.....how about.....Mormon?

22 posted on 06/03/2005 2:37:37 PM PDT by maestro
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To: CHARLITE

This is all just too convenient. I will ALWAYS believe that Deep Throat was a composite and even more...a creation by that absurd team of "journalists". Think of what would have happened if they had bloggers and the internet then! The whole thing would have blown up in their faces (think Dan Rather, and Newsweek!), and Nixon would have survived it. Who says their story is true? I never believed it all was. AND...the break-ins of all those Republican headquarters last year are far more serious, they represent a trend of the very same thing as "Watergate". Who cares though? NOT the media!

Ask anyone our son and daughter-in-law's ages if they care or know much about it, people in their 20's (30's too, maybe 40's?)...Not many! Just us oldies around 50 and beyond have a solid memory or connection it seems...and we have "moved on"! The media never will, not over a Republican anyway.


23 posted on 06/03/2005 2:37:58 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: ElkGroveDan

You're kidding, right?


24 posted on 06/03/2005 2:42:31 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Mach9
You're kidding, right?

No. Deep Throat's leaks were all related to the Watergate investigation.

25 posted on 06/03/2005 2:46:16 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: mlc9852

I just have to wonder, after all these years, how many really care.......................

Can Woodward find out who Michael Jackson really is?


26 posted on 06/03/2005 2:49:11 PM PDT by Grateful One (`)
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To: eeriegeno
Woodward and Bernstien still care!!! There are a lot of bucks to be made yet milking this story!!!!

Yeah, W&B sold their Watergate papers to U of Texas for $5 million. They have made a bundle from books and speaking tours. Woodward's new book is being rushed into print for release in July. Watergate is the gift that never stopped giving.

27 posted on 06/03/2005 2:49:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CHARLITE

Silent Coup is a remarkable book.

It takes "who said what" and evaluates for concurrency to figure out who was lying.

Dean doesn't come off well AT ALL as a result of their analyses.


28 posted on 06/03/2005 2:59:00 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: BonnieJ

"The whole thing would have blown up in their faces (think Dan Rather, and Newsweek!), and Nixon would have survived it.'

Actually this was pointed out years ago in the book "It Didn't Start With Watergate". I don't recall the author/s but they ACTUALLY COUNTED the anti administration headlines that had any bais in truth. A vanishing fraction of the stories the headlines represented were true, but the cumlative effect of all that "journalisim" was profound. Suffice it to say that in todays world Watergate would never have gotten traction.


29 posted on 06/03/2005 3:15:12 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: ElkGroveDan

Interesting. I thought as I heard and read about the friendship between Woodward and Felt how odd that a very senior person, number two or three at the FBI, would become a good friend and mentor (as Woodward called him) to a young man in his twenties, with whom he has no other connection, after sitting in a waiting room together one day.


30 posted on 06/03/2005 3:17:34 PM PDT by carola
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To: TalBlack

Googled it: 'It Didn't Start With Watergate' by Victor Lasky, 11 bucks at Amazon


31 posted on 06/03/2005 3:21:13 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Helms

LOL...leave it to you...


33 posted on 06/03/2005 3:31:03 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Dog
"The only explanation that I can come up with was that Felt had his own little ring within the FBI -- some of them remained active even after Felt's retirement (pipelining him the info on the tape-gap)."

Goodness, not a conspiracy to bring down a President!

< wink >

34 posted on 06/03/2005 3:32:56 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CHARLITE
Now, Char, everybody knows that Deep Throat was really Jane Fonda!:)
35 posted on 06/03/2005 3:41:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Beach Bum)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yes, quite. But they were related to taking Nixon DOWN. Impeachment buzzed the day after the break-in. Alex Haig--whether he agreed or not with the break-ins (and there are rumors that he emphatically did NOT), would, I repeat, NEVER have contributed so much as a wink to hurting Nixon's ability to negotiate, to conduct foreign policy.


36 posted on 06/03/2005 4:13:27 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Sonny M; CHARLITE
Woodward is going ape trying to rush his book out now.

I bet he wrote most of it over 30 years ago. After all he would probably want to make sure he had a book ready to go to the printers if he were to die unexpetedly.

37 posted on 06/03/2005 4:13:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Mach9
hurting Nixon's ability to negotiate, to conduct foreign policy.

Actually Nixon negotiated a successful withdrawal from Vietnam from a position of strength, and left the South Vietnamese in control. It was the Democrats controlling Congress (and their allies in the press) that caused the mayhem later when the Viet Cong began violating the negotiated treaty. They tied Nixon's hands and refused to fund any military support to force the Vietcong back across their lines.

The obvious lack of US support or intent to enforce the treaties cause an internal fear and a self-fulfilling collapse on the part of the South, as everyone turned tail and ran.

Watergate hurt Nixon politically, but it was the very partisan Congress and the press that caused the US to abandon Vietnam after fighting to a near victory. The abandonment of the South Vietnamese would have happened with or without Watergate.

Read it in Nixon's own words. One of the best books on Vietnam ever written was Nixon's book, "No More Vietnams." I'm sure its available on paperback through Amazon or elsewhere.

38 posted on 06/03/2005 4:39:38 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: Cicero
"My own assumption at the time was that Deep Throat was a fiction, made up to cover things that Woodward got from various sources or simply made up."

I believe that you are right....plus, after hearing John Dean this afternoon on Court TV, I'm convinced that certain specific information obtained by Woodward & Bernstein could not have possibly come from anyone BUT one of four people inside the Nixon White House who knew about the tapes. Mark Felt didn't know about the tapes and couldn't have known. So, there would have been only a maximum of 4 W.H. staffers who knew.

This doesn't invalidate your hypothesis that DT was a composite. The WH connection was just one of many information sources, if your theory is correct.

To me, the most compelling part of Kincaid's article is that Woodward blatantly invented a conversation with Bill Casey which was impossible!....so it's the old adage, "Fool me once, and it's 'shame on you.' Fool me again, and it's 'Shame on me.' " Woodward has done enough fooling and concocted enough implausible scenarios, informants and interlocutors.

He's not credible, and neither is this poor, doddering gentleman, Mark Felt, who looked like nothing so much as a participant in a PUBLISHERS CLEARING HOUSE commercial when he made his grand entrance onto the media stage! The only thing missing were the balloons.

Char :)

39 posted on 06/03/2005 4:41:54 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Why do we permit seditious, hateful messages to be shouted from muslim pulpits in America?)
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To: Howlin

IMHO The gigs up and we are at War, I am getting mad and scared.


40 posted on 06/03/2005 4:46:26 PM PDT by Helms (Multicultural Death by 1000 Cuts is Meant To Destroy America)
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