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To: XR7
I did not say that the people of China have total freedom.

Let me point out one thing here. No matter how brutal China was or is to its people, in the event of war, they will fight as tenaciously as any army on earth because the people have pride in their nation, something that is lacking in America since national sovereignty has been tossed over the Rio Grande.

As I sit her and write this, there are 11 illegal aliens in my yard working on a new addition to my home. I did not hire them. The contractor subbed out the framing and roof work to a sub who hired them. This will not happen in China, to their credit. China will not pay millions of people who are in their nation illegally free medical care, free housing, government assistance and give them drivers licenses like America does.

Our leaders our insane. The insanity of the destruction of our national sovereignty is only exceeded by the pathetic apathy of American citizens who sit by and only mildly bitch about it.

It is China who should be lecturing us.

America shoudl not lecture China or Russia about "democracy" until this nation reclaims its own national sovereignty (and that will probably never occur).

16 posted on 06/03/2005 10:40:37 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The Republican'ts have no backbone--they ALWAYS cave-in to the RATs)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; A_Conservative_Chinese

Pinging somone who has been there and knows China first hand


51 posted on 06/03/2005 3:49:11 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
there are 11 illegal aliens in my yard working on a new addition to my home.

That particular buck stops with you, FRiend. You could not possibly have researched your contractor very well or you would know who would be doing any and all subcontracting work. Yes, this takes time. But ultimately, YOU just paid those workers.

59 posted on 06/03/2005 4:50:47 PM PDT by grellis (Will zot for cowbells)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I'm not trying to sound high-horse and snotty, btw, which is how that probably came across--it's just that I have learned from painful experience that all contractors need to spell out, to the letter, every single bit of work they will be doing and WHO will be doing it.

I don't know about how the contracting laws work where you are, but you might want to call your state's office of Immigration and Naturalization. Get the contractor's ass in a sling, if you can. Don't trust the govt to do a damn thing about the problem of illegals--clearly, they won't. If enough of us start making some noise, real noise, alerting authorities to when and where illegals are working in a manner timely enough for them to have a chance of reacting, who knows? Is it worth a phone call?

Here in Michigan, btw, the contractor would be required to fulfill any and all agreed upon duties at the agreed upon price. If that means that (were your contractor to get busted) your contractor would be forced to hire legal workers and finish the contract at a loss...well, that would be icing on the cake.

70 posted on 06/03/2005 5:09:50 PM PDT by grellis (Will zot for cowbells)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Our leaders our insane. The insanity of the destruction of our national sovereignty is only exceeded by the pathetic apathy of American citizens who sit by and only mildly bitch about it.

Right, and the minutement are a hoax /sarcasm

they will fight as tenaciously as any army on earth because the people have pride in their nation

Only because they are brainwashed and their government filters nearly all media out. What do you think Radio Free Europe was for in the cold war?

I will agree that our leaders are gutless regarding the border but if you hate our country so much why dont you MOVE to china? no one is stopping you.

71 posted on 06/03/2005 5:11:55 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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