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To: Drammach

Isnt there still an issue with the volume of storage needed to travel the minimum 300 miles that the auto makers say the consumer wants? Namely that under the best refrigerated conditions the volume of hydrogen needed to propel the average car a distance of 300 miles between fill ups is at least double the volume of storage for gasoline, not to mention drastically more expensive.


6 posted on 06/03/2005 9:23:26 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
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To: heckler

Here's a discussion on hydrogen storage in fuel cells. There's some hurdles to overcome but if the cost of producing the hydrogen is brought down to the level the above article implies, then we're on our way.


Fuel Storage



Steel Tanks | Composite Tanks | Sodium Borohydride | Micropore Storage | Hydrogen Safety


Hydrogen gas is not an energy-dense fuel, so it can be difficult to store enough hydrogen gas into a fuel-cell powered car to power it over a practical driving range. Storing hydrogen in liquid form increases its energy density, but the extremely low temperatures and high pressures necessary for liquid storage are unrealistic for vehicular applications.


If hydrogen fuel is to be stored on-board a vehicle, a high-volume, low weight, safe storage system must be devised. Some possibilities for storage tanks include:


Steel Tanks
Steel tanks provide a safe a reliable way to store hydrogen, since similar tanks are now used to stock hydrogen gas to laboratories and universities. Tanks made from steel can hold hydrogen gas at a pressure of approximately 5,000 psi.

However, steel tanks do have several disadvantages. They are subject to hydrogen embrittlement and if its structure is ruptured (for example, in a car accident), steel projectiles can cause injuries. In addition, the tanks are heavy, so hydrogen storage would only constitute 0.5-1% by weight. The tanks would be difficult to refill, since hydrogen gas expands upon heating.

Composite Tanks
Composite tanks, comprised of polyethylene, have a high storage capacity (about 7% by weight) and weigh less than steel tanks. Composite tanks can store hydrogen at a pressure of about 10,000 psi, and the tanks can be shaped to fit in the chassis of a car. Composite tanks have the added safety feature of powdering upon impact, absorbing the majority of the energy of the collision before it reaches the fuel, and allowing the hydrogen gas to escape into the atmosphere.

In addition to pressurized tank storage, higher volumes of hydrogen can be stored with the aid of several chemical reactions:

Sodium Borohydride
Millenium Cell, Inc., has trademarked the phrase "Hydrogen on Demand" to describe a safe way to store hydrogen with sodium borohydride using the following reaction:


When hydrogen fuel is needed, the sodium borohydride solution is pumped over a catalyst, producing hydrogen and sodium borate, a non-toxic compound found in detergents. Both products and reactants of this simple system are stabile to air.

The "Hydrogen on Demand" system has a high effective hydrogen pressure (about 7,000 psi) and can store more hydrogen by volume than a polyethylene composite tank alone. Cars with a sodium borohydride storage system get about 300-400 miles per tank.

One disadvantage of the "Hydrogen on Demand" system is its cost. Sodium borohydride, not currently a popular chemical reagent, is expensive to purchase, and it is unknown whether the price would decrease enough to be cost efficient if used in fuel cell hydrogen storage.

Millenium Cell, Inc.'s "Hydrogen on Demand" video

Micropore Storage
The principle of hydrogen micropore storage is that molecules of hydrogen, under high temperatures and pressures, can enter the microscopic holes in media such as carbon nanotubes, graphite nanofibers and zeolites. Hydrogen remains trapped in the cavities of the material, but can be released again when the temperature is re-elevated. Buckminsterfullerenes, also known as buckyballs, have a theoretical hydrogen storage ability of 7 percent by weight. Using this theory, hydrogen could be stored in solid materials at room temperature, taking up much less space than when stored in pure solid or liquid form. In the car, the materials could be heated and hydrogen fuel could be extracted.



Carbon nanotube and zeolites.
Hydrogen Safety
People tend to think of hydrogen as an extremely dangerous gas to store around people. Images of the Hindenburg disaster and the hydrogen bomb make up a large part of the public's conception of hydrogen's behavior. However, these images do not accurately represent the facts about hydrogen storage safety.

There is, of course, no chance that hydrogen stored in a tank could accidentally start an uncontrolled fusion reaction. A fusion bomb requires special isotopes of hydrogen and such extreme conditions that a fission bomb is used as the detonator. The hydrogen on board the Hindenburg did burn, but most of the fire's severity and fatal effects can be attributed to the highly flammable fabric that encased the zeppelin and the diesel fuel on board. The coatings applied to the fabric to make it reflective and gas-tight are actually very similar to solid rocket fuel.


While hydrogen is a flammable and explosive gas, there are several reasons why it is often safer than gasoline. Since hydrogen is such a lightweight gas, it diffuses very quickly in air. If a tank develops a leak, the hydrogen is likely to diffuse out of the area so quickly that it cannot build up sufficient concentration to ignite in air. The risk of ignition is further reduced by the fact that the concentration of hydrogen in air must be fairly high to sustain a flame, four times greater than the concentration required for gasoline, in fact.


In the event of a fire, hydrogen has the advantage that it tends to float up and away from the source of the leak as it burns, rather than form a burning pool on the ground like gasoline.





12 posted on 06/03/2005 9:50:41 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: heckler

STORAGE PROBLEM SOLVED -
Danish Researchers Reveal New Hydrogen Storage Technology

Scientists at the Technical University of Denmark have invented a technology which may be an important step towards the hydrogen economy: a hydrogen tablet that effectively stores hydrogen in an inexpensive and safe material.

With the new hydrogen tablet, it becomes much simpler to use the environmentally-friendly energy of hydrogen. Hydrogen is a non-polluting fuel, but since it is a light gas it occupies too much volume, and it is flammable. Consequently, effective and safe storage of hydrogen has challenged researchers world-wide for almost three decades. At the Technical University of Denmark, DTU, an interdisciplinary team has developed a hydrogen tablet which enables storage and transport of hydrogen in solid form.

“Should you drive a car 600 km using gaseous hydrogen at normal pressure, it would require a fuel tank with a size of nine cars. With our technology, the same amount of hydrogen can be stored in a normal gasoline tank”, says Professor Claus Hviid Christensen, Department of Chemistry at DTU.

The hydrogen tablet is safe and inexpensive. In this respect it is different from most other hydrogen storage technologies. You can literally carry the material in your pocket without any kind of safety precaution. The reason is that the tablet consists solely of ammonia absorbed efficiently in sea-salt. Ammonia is produced by a combination of hydrogen with nitrogen from the surrounding air, and the DTU-tablet therefore contains large amounts of hydrogen. Within the tablet, hydrogen is stored as long as desired, and when hydrogen is needed, ammonia is released through a catalyst that decomposes it back to free hydrogen. When the tablet is empty, you merely give it a “shot” of ammonia and it is ready for use again.

“The technology is a step towards making the society independent of fossil fuels” says Professor Jens Nørskov, director of the Nanotechnology Center at DTU. He, Claus Hviid Christensen, Tue Johannessen, Ulrich Quaade and Rasmus Zink Sørensen are the five researchers behind the invention. The advantages of using hydrogen are numerous. It is CO2-free, and it can be produced by renewable energy sources, e.g. wind power.

“We have a new solution to one of the major obstacles to the use of hydrogen as a fuel. And we need new energy technologies – oil and gas will not last, and without energy, there is no modern society”, says Jens Nørskov.

Together with DTU and SeeD Capital Denmark, the researchers have founded the company Amminex A/S, which will focus on the further development and commercialization of the technology


15 posted on 07/05/2008 5:36:13 AM PDT by Jet225
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