Posted on 06/02/2005 8:21:22 PM PDT by John Robertson
While many MSM'ers (sorry, most) are lionizing this guy as "a hero," someone who "did what he had to do," something big is being missed.
Our side has pointed out that he authorized/engineered illegal breakins himself...
And that he turned on the Whitehouse because he didn't get the top FBI job. Now think about that....
Felt became a snitch because he didn't get something he wanted! He was an opportunist, plain and simple (and it runs in the family, apparently, as they shamelessly say they urged the old man to do it so they could all get some money). Yeah, a real hero.
But here's what I haven't seen....
If they had made him the head of the FBI, he WOULD NOT have turned on the Whitehouse.
In fact, as head of the FBI....
HE WOULD HAVE HELPED THEM BURY WATERGATE!
The low levels were Cubans. Hunt of course was not. Your theory stikes me as wild speculation. But have at it.
Bogus might be the operative word.
Watergate was small potatoes compared to the crap FDR and LBJ pulled when they were in the White House. And the MSM knew about it, they chose not to report it. They were out to get Nixon, and they would find any little thing to try to get him out. That's Watergate in a nutshell.
They worked for the CIA on previous jobs in a prior career I think. So what?
I don't really believe that theory, though I always enjoy saying nasty things regarding John Dean. What a prick.
There was an intervening event called Vietnam. You are right, in the Watergate era, and beyond, LBJ would have gone to prison for a very long time.
I don't think it was a cheap shot
I was asked if I thought Bernstein was a commie
I have no idea .. but I do know he leans very left
As for his father .. I found that information interesting ..
Now tell me .. since I don't recall any of your posts .. why are you trying to pick a fight with me over this
Back off. You are the one out of line here. Mo1's info is interesting and I'm suprised you don't find it so. Why would that be?
Nixon was not involved in the planning of Watergate, that has been established by the Nixon Tapes. Nixon was deeply involved in the cover up though, and who was advising Nixon? and what ties did Nixon's advisers have to Felt and the FBI. Erlichman is the key IMHO. Why did McCord roll over so easily, we know he had ties to the FBI, he was a former FBI Agent.
Till the day I die, I will believe Nixon was setup.
Right on. (Not to mention JFK.)
I think your theory is wild, but only a corrupt and amoral man would have allowed himself to be setup in any event. Nixon has nobody to blame but himself. He lacked character. He lacked that esesntial loadstar of valuing doing what was right over and above perceived self interest, however poorly perceived that self interest was.
Casey's family and doctors have all denied that Woodward was ever there at the hospital -- and Casey was in a coma and could not speak.
Yes, now that you mention that, I recall that. Woodward denies that. Maybe it was a Terri S. thing, and the fog temporarily lifted at the right moment, as some say, although not I. I think that is what Woodward claimed. I doubt this one will ever really be resolved.
Which would mean W&B were also pawns. Am I following you correctly? What's your theory on Bradlee? Part of the set-up?
"Back off." No thanks bon
"You are the one out of line here." We'll have to agree to disagree on that
"Mo1's info is interesting and I'm suprised you don't find it so. Why would that be?"
Because I think pointing at someone's parents is a really cheap shot, Point Blank. Whether I agree or disagree with them.
I thought it was a cheap shot when the Dems did it to Arnold, and others, and said so at the time.
Nixon's problem was he was far too loyal to his underlings. Nixon could have easily, and probably should have, called on the Justice Department to get to the bottom of the criminal activity in his administration, but he decided not to, and chose to try and protect his underlings. By doing so, he broke many laws. Nixon was like all Presidents, they pick people they think will best advise them. Nixon made some bad choices for advisers, and their advice helped bring him down. Kinda like Dick Morris's advice to W. Blythe Clinton to lie about his unsavory liaisons with Monica Lewinsky.
Katharine Graham, in a 1988 speech given to senior CIA employees at Agency headquarters said, "We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows."
Yes, this has come up. As to Jim McCord--very good guy, not macho like Liddy (altho both had pretty large families) but a patriot, too. Just don't think he could handle the guilt; and Hunt couldn't afford to. Don't agree completely on Erlichmann, but it's possible now that we know someone other than a WH staffer was ID'd as DT. Still thinking it was more than one and that blackmail was involved. VERY few Nixon guys were NEW. Dean was an aberration. And we still haven't even touched all the info about Maurie Stans, John Mitchell, other CRe-EP staffers--all of whom would have known more about the finance-end than anyone in the White House.
After reading Woodward's article today .. that was my thought
Felt played him very well
My "theory" makes perfectly good sense; he roomed with Richard Helms at Harvard; he worked for the U.S. in France, disseminating proganda.
FGS, when his sister-in-law turned up dead, he found James Angelton in her garage apartment, looking for the diary she kept about JFK.
And then there is this:
The instigators of MOCKINGBIRD were Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham was the husband of Katherine Graham, publisher of the Washington Post. In fact, it was the Post’s ties to the CIA that allowed it to grow so quickly after the war, both in readership and influence. 8
MOCKINGBIRD was extraordinarily successful. In no time, the agency had recruited at least 25 media organizations to disseminate CIA propaganda. At least 400 journalists would eventually join the CIA payroll, according to the CIA’s testimony before a stunned Church Committee in 1975. (The committee felt the true number was considerably higher.) The names of those recruited reads like a Who's Who of journalism:
* Philip and Katharine Graham (Publishers, Washington Post)
* William Paley (President, CBS)
* Henry Luce (Publisher, Time and Life magazine)
* Arthur Hays Sulzberger (Publisher, N.Y. Times)
* Jerry O'Leary (Washington Star)
* Hal Hendrix (Pulitzer Prize winner, Miami News)
* Barry Bingham Sr., (Louisville Courier-Journal)
* James Copley (Copley News Services)
* Joseph Harrison (Editor, Christian Science Monitor)
* C.D. Jackson (Fortune)
* Walter Pincus (Reporter, Washington Post)
* ABC
* NBC
* Associated Press
* United Press International
* Reuters
* Hearst Newspapers
* Scripps-Howard
* Newsweek magazine
* Mutual Broadcasting System
* Miami Herald
* Old Saturday Evening Post
* New York Herald-Tribune
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