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Freeper research wanted: Can we estimate Felt's FBI pension? Is he being abused by his daughter?
one man's opinion

Posted on 06/02/2005 11:18:04 AM PDT by ken5050

Much has been written about the need and desire of Felt's family to cash in on his 15 minutes of fame. I have no problem with this, but we're also hearing about how he is living in a converted garage at his daughter's house, and that she has taken care of him for 20 years. Before designating her for sainthood. I 'd like to point out that he has been receiving a federal pension all this time, and he retired at the top of the federal pay system I know very little about the federal system, but assume there are many here who can estimate what his salary was at the time he retired, and what his pension is, even assuming that he elected a reduced benefit option to provide a survivor benefitfor his wife.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deepthroat; fbi; markfelt
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To: Spirited

That's the reputation isn't it.


201 posted on 06/02/2005 4:44:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Hildy
Hildy, I don't think she has taken care of him for 20 years. I think he has LIVED with her for 20 years, but as I understand it his stroke was in the mid-90's. If you have other information, please give me a link or something.

Another point: if she took care of him for 20 years, she probably didn't work, in which case she has no income to fall back on when he dies (with the exception of a percentage of the pension, if RobbyL is correct).

Now, people who are in debt and looking at loss of income have a reason to be desperate and try to get some money. It doesn't mean she didn't take care of him, nor does it make her a villain. However, it would provide a motive for her to coerce him into confessing, perhaps even to confessing to something he didn't do.

And you must admit she was quite jolly when talking to the press.

202 posted on 06/02/2005 4:45:01 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Grampa Dave

True enough most of this stuff can only be diagnosed with an autopsy, but Science News regularly reports on advances in this field.


203 posted on 06/02/2005 4:46:21 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: RobbyS

Only way his daughter can get any portion of his pension after he dies is if she is otherwise disabled. So, is she a burned out druggie, or does she have a real disability?


204 posted on 06/02/2005 4:47:55 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: ken5050
Rush Limbaugh agrees with you. This is from his web site:

Helpppppppp, lemme outta here!

205 posted on 06/02/2005 4:48:15 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Miss Marple

There's no quibbling that they're doing it now for money. They've said it, it's not secret. But to make it a weird conspiracy is absurd. Why is it so hard to just take these events at face value. Why do you want it to be someone else? It makes sense.


206 posted on 06/02/2005 4:49:14 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: durasell
Look, this guy helped out the LEFT big time. Pinochet, the LEFT's favorite whipping boy, is OLDER.

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Note that there's a direct connection between what this guy was telling the "posties", the failure of American will regarding Cambodia, and the Khmer Rouge Holocaust. He's got millions of deaths on his side of the ledger.

Should we have pity on this guy or take him to court?

207 posted on 06/02/2005 4:49:41 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Miss Marple

NO. I answered this already. Unless he married his daughter (and who knows what they really do in California these days, eh) or she were totally disabled and dependent on him, she gets nothing.


208 posted on 06/02/2005 4:50:31 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Miss Marple
If Woodward fabricated Deep Throat he has to produce someone within the next 10 years. He had said he would reveal the identity when the guy died.

No, he doesn't have to produce anything. Woodward could drop dead next week, or like others, become demented 7 years from now.

However, I find it interesting that it took the Post, Woodward, and Bernstein a couple of days to get their story straight.

I am not surprised. It's international news, and it probably blindsided them.

By the way, how did you wind up here? I notice you have only been here a few days. Speculation and trying out of ideas is what we do here. Sorry if you find it humorous, but sometimes we actually find things out.

Like a lot of others, I lurked for a long time, but didn't have much time to actually post. I've found myself with more time recently. And your right, lots of good things here. I didn't mean humorous as a dig to you, it's just I find some of the speculation sometimes humorous, and not just with this story.

209 posted on 06/02/2005 4:50:40 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Miss Marple; ken5050

I'll also point out that what I'm arguing about on this thread is the assertion that she's an abuser, which is what ken5050 was implying.


210 posted on 06/02/2005 4:50:46 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: RobbyS

There are NO survivor benefits with a federal pension. There's a benefit for a spouse, or a former spouse with a court order, but you can't just tap into somebody's pension under either CSRS or FERS.


211 posted on 06/02/2005 4:52:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: ken5050; All

.......for the record......what religious denomination was Felt?


212 posted on 06/02/2005 4:53:09 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Hildy

lol.. if you care to observe my supposed "...judgement, and accusation, based on nothing...", you will see that Your Bias is my point of purpose. I have made no declaration here or anywhere else about Felt or his supposed caregivers. Take your "...Zero.Zip. Ya know, you people are insane..." bs and ruminate on the facts of your projected guilt post to me.


213 posted on 06/02/2005 4:53:13 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: ken5050; All

.......for the record......what religious denomination was Felt?


214 posted on 06/02/2005 4:53:43 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Hildy
Just because she thinks that if there's money to be made, he should make it, doesn't mean she's an abuser.

But that isn't what she said; she said she wanted the money not to take care of her father, but to pay off college loans SHE is responsible for.

215 posted on 06/02/2005 4:54:38 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Hildy
You are not understanding me:

1. Did he make this confession of his own free will, or was he coerced into doing so?

2. Does he even know he has "confessed?"

3. Is the confession true?

I don't know how to make it plainer than that. Since we are dealing with someone who concealed the truth, how can we believe him now? And how can we believe Woodward, who makes stuff up left and right?

I just don't get why you think that this woman is a saint. It wasn't like she took him into her home when HE was penniless.

I am very sensitive to the problems of the elderly. My sisters and I cared for our parents for many years. We did not take their pension money for our support.

216 posted on 06/02/2005 4:55:28 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Treader
Your penchant of providing cover fire for supposed "caregivers" in questionable circumstances, is well observed and justly noted.

Knock that crap off; you're not suppose to drag that stuff from thread to thread.

217 posted on 06/02/2005 4:57:04 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Howlin

SO WHAT? Who cares what they want the money for. It's not our business.


218 posted on 06/02/2005 4:57:12 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy
I don't care what they want the money for. I DO care if the desire for money caused her to browbeat her father into "confessing," or caused her to enter into some sort of an agreement with Woodward.

We are talking about MOTIVE and BELIEVABILITY.

219 posted on 06/02/2005 4:59:19 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
I tend to believe people are good. I tend to believe daughters love their Fathers. I tend to believe that anybody who takes care of a parent (or has them live with them) for 20 years is doing a good thing.

So, maybe at first he didn't want to come forward. But he didn't think he'd live to be 91. Circumstances change. Maybe he sees his daughter struggling and he wants to help her and this is last chance of doing it. Why is that crazier than what this thread is suggesting?

220 posted on 06/02/2005 5:00:24 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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