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To: GarySpFc
The point I am making is that Russia is a country at war with terrorists, and they still have considerable freedom considering the circumstances

Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist...I wouldn't compare most of the Chechens with Al-Qaida. The war in Chechnya is different from that one in Iraq. Way over any standards both moral and military. When in Iraq there is some form of abuse (like Abu-Graib) or some separate incidents (unneccesary deaths) in Chechnya at the same time there is a planned or at least uncontrolled slow extermination ot the Chechen nation. Haven't you heard of series of executions of chechen men and women? The whole villages are pacified...Dude, don't mix war on terror with what happens in Chechnya...

12 posted on 06/02/2005 12:14:28 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: kaiser80
Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist...I wouldn't compare most of the Chechens with Al-Qaida.

THAT IS A BALD FACED LIE. I spent six years on a Special Forces A-Team, and I still have many connections in the Special Ops community. I have good intelligence what is going on in the WOT. Al-Qaeda is in Chechnya, and they have been there for years. On every battlefield in the world where al-Qaeda is fighting you will find dead Chechens, and so please go crawl back in your hole. When I first came on these boards and saw the total lies being told about Russia in Chechnya I blew my top.
14 posted on 06/02/2005 12:54:16 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: kaiser80
Yeah, better watch out, Gary is one of them:


16 posted on 06/02/2005 1:00:18 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: kaiser80
Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist...I wouldn't compare most of the Chechens with Al-Qaida. The war in Chechnya is different from that one in Iraq.

Welp, there goes your credibility. We'll be sure to tell this to the Chechins in Gitmo and the dead ones in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq. I'm sure the Chechin who blew himself up with the USS Cole would be happy to hear you too.

27 posted on 06/02/2005 1:48:44 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: kaiser80
Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist.

Yes, by the foolish withdrawal in 1966. As a result of the "trying to be nice guy" naiveness, Russians allowed the worst type of Wahabis and friends of Osama flood to Chechnya. Good example was the savage emir Khattab lionized by the more stupid faction of Polish journalists.

47 posted on 06/02/2005 3:52:11 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mikolaj Rej: "A niechaj narodowie wzdy postronni znaja, Iz Polacy nie gesi, iz swoj jezyk maja.")
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To: kaiser80

Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist...==

How so? Terrorism in Chechnya started in 1991 when there wasn't war there. Chechen rebel attacks on russian civilians started then.
Later when chechen rebels went through thier compact dwellings the war began.

War was started by chechen armed rebellion as any rebellion anywhere.
During war there were atrocities from both sides.


63 posted on 06/03/2005 4:40:55 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: kaiser80

"Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist...I wouldn't compare most of the Chechens with Al-Qaida. The war in Chechnya is different from that one in Iraq. Way over any standards both moral and military. When in Iraq there is some form of abuse (like Abu-Graib) or some separate incidents (unneccesary deaths) in Chechnya at the same time there is a planned or at least uncontrolled slow extermination ot the Chechen nation. Haven't you heard of series of executions of chechen men and women? The whole villages are pacified...Dude, don't mix war on terror with what happens in Chechnya..."

You sound exactly like the America-haters who blame us for creating conditions that led to Muslim fanatics launching planes into the WTC. Holy Moly is your post one of the most uneducated analysis of what's going on in Chechnya. Evidently you haven't had anyone you know blown up in the Moscow Metro, or while sleeping in their apartments in Kashirskoe Shosse, or killed standing in line for a rock concert outside of Tishinsky Airfield, or blown up walking past the National Hotel, or taken hostage in a hospital in Budennovsk, or school children killed in Beslan, or, well, you get the picture, I can go on and on and on. Evidently, Islamic-funded terrorism is ok with you as long as they're killing Russians.

Ask yourself this question - Are Basaev and his followers Wahabiists? Is Osama Bin Ladin a Wahabiist? Hmm, yes, perhaps??? Could there be a link??


99 posted on 06/03/2005 4:13:56 PM PDT by Romanov
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