The importance of guns in democracy

[Shooter 2.5]

Maybe it was said. Thirty years ago. Maybe we should blame the GOA for not being there during the Machine Gun Ban. They didn't exist then? So what. No excuse.

We had a president of a state organization who claimed no one "needed" an assault weapon. He was kicked to the curb at the next election.

Moral of the story is we all have to stick together. All of the assault weapon owners, the .50 BMG chambered gun owners, the Saturday Night Special owners and the single shot benchresters. All of us. WE HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER.

Something Dead Corpse hasn't learned by pitting one group against another.

[Dead Corpse]

This was a lot closer than 30 years ago Shooter. Don't even get me started on some of the other court cases they've blundered.

[Shooter 2.5]

They withheld support. That should have been a signal to the GOA to step in and show how it's done. Did the GOA withhold their support too? If the NRA isn't as powerful as you claim, why did they need the NRA so badly and not the GOA? When you become a member of the NRA, then you can complain where your dues money is going. Not before.
We're still waiting for the date and the person who mentioned the .357.

[Dead Corpse]

I'd like the NRA if they read the Second and stood up for what it states. "Shall not be infringed". NOt more BS where we "need to enforce the laws on the books". Especially when all 22,00 laws are all UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I'm meeting anyone half way on this one. You know that.

If you have to ask permission, it isn't a Right.

[Shooter 2.5]

The NRA knows what the Second says. They also know they don't manufacture the votes it takes to pass pro-gun laws.

You have a problem with the NRA? Become a member and tell them where you want your money spent. They didn't give money to Montana. Did you? Did the GOA?

There's a real enemy out there and it's not the GOA or the NRA. It's the anti's. Learn to stick together or we'll all lose.

[I got the rope]

Good post and good point. There's lots that we can do folks. One of the things I've done is give out voting registrations forms to Conservative folks in my county. I personally helped register about 150 or so people last year and mayb 30 this year alone. I have also made a lot of "gun" converts.

I've practically given some of my target .22 rifles and handguns away so that some of my new friends here in Florida will just start shooting and get involved. Many people don't get involved with 2nd amendment issues if they don't own a weapon. All it takes is one 5 minute shooting session to get people hooked. When it happens it's a beautiful thing folks.

One of my college dorm-mates was so anti-gun when I first met him it took all I had to put up with him for that one semester. During the break I remember I brought him to my home in West Texas and we left to hunt white-tail deer one weekend.

He owns more fire-arms than me now!

Don't be afraid to train up your young teenagers in your community. The men of my church regularly go target shooting and take many of the youth with them. Heck I even convinced my Pastor to buy a firearm. He's hooked too.

[Oorang]

How about Separate but Equal issues? Or is that not PC?

Separate but Equal - I like it, that works. As far as the PC goes, I have a sign at the beginning of my long driveway that warns folks that they are entering a NON- politically correct zone.

[roncougar68]

The way things are going, they will make signs like that illegal.

[PizzaDriver]

Am I to gather that YOU don't think "the Bill of Rights" is important?
I am an Heinleinian, First.
Bill of Rights republican, 2nd.
Libertarian, 3rd.

Why RANT on Me, about your view of the Libertarian "drug fringe"? Has the Dean Wing indoctrinated You, THAT completely? This is about "Concealed Carry" in Today's USA; Defense of Self, of Property, of Neighbors, & of Strangers. Not about a " Utopian Libertarian's" DREAM WORLD.

[Rockingham]

Political changes that depend on elections and "the consent of the governed" are necessarily incremental. Often, as with Reagan's program, hard won victories slowly mount, take effect, and then suddenly, the American economy comes roaring back, the Berlin Wall falls, and the ideas and organization are in place for a Republican Congress. We are gaining ground, and that matters more than the schedule. Whatever cause we have for disappointments, the other side has much greater reason for their sense of desperation.

[Rockingham]

That bugs me too. But I have noticed in the last two weeks that the administration has been taking a different line through lesser players. On Fox, Joe Allbaugh and Ken Mehlman praised the Real ID Act, which the administration had once opposed. We are in the early phases of a shift in tone, at least. My guess is that comprehensive polling showed immigration becoming such an issue that they are at last waking to the political danger.

[FraudFactor.com]

Many politicians support gun control for racist reasons

I was told explicitly the reason why many politicians who support restrictive gun control laws do so. I was explaining to a politician in California in a face-to-face discussion that firearm laws should should target only criminals and should not target, punish, and harass law-abiding citizens. He responded, "Some people should not have guns. You cannot trust the ni--ers with guns!" I was highly offended, as were the others with me who witnessed this conversation.

Gun control laws are often selectively enforced against otherwise law-abiding black Americans and other minorities. For an example, see:

The Chicago police threatened to shoot their family dog unless they let the police in to search for and confiscate their firearms

at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1425363/posts?page=40#40

One of the reasons there is so much violent crime in black communities, typically in cities controlled and mismanaged by Democrat political machines, is because the more restrictive gun control laws in these cities increase violent crime by shifting the balance of power to favor criminals over ordinary citizens, and by destroying the deterrent and crime control effects of armed citizens.

 - FraudFactor.com

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[rambo316]

Get this right, though. We are a constitutional REPUBLIC not a democracy. Article 4, Section 4, US Constitution. Guns and the right to bear them are important in a free REPUBLIC.