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Ben Stein -Deep Throat and Genocide
The American Spectator ^ | 6/1/2005 12:22:42 AM | Ben Stein

Posted on 06/01/2005 4:57:54 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

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To: Former Military Chick

i just love Ben Stein... what a gifted man he is...


61 posted on 06/01/2005 10:11:55 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: nonliberal
I don't think so. His father, Herb Stein, was chairman of Nixon's Council of Economic Advisors.

he was a speech writer for President Nixon...

62 posted on 06/01/2005 10:14:09 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: everyone

Ben must be 60 by now. I find it hard to take seriously a well-educated professional man of his age who still does TV game shows.


63 posted on 06/01/2005 10:27:22 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The killers are responsible for the deaths. May they receive their just reward.


64 posted on 06/01/2005 10:46:14 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: All
". . . the infamous John Dean who in fact suggested that the breakin was the work of the CIA."

Having watched the Senate hearings on TV as a youngster I will never forget that the first Nixon staffer to testify against him was Dean, an unappetizing, weaselly rat who was hip-deep in the plans to burgle the Dems. Why?

John and Maureen Dean are at the center of Watergate conspiracy theories that sound as if they came from a steamy Washington novel. They filed a lawsuit for defamation after a 1991 book, "Silent Coup: The Removal of a President" suggested that John Dean masterminded the Watergate burglary to obtain documents linking Maureen and her roommate to an alleged prostitution ring.

The sources for the book were G. Gordon Liddy and Phillip Bailley, a lawyer for drug dealers and prostitutes.

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65 posted on 06/02/2005 2:43:38 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Liberty Wins
Read Liddy's book. . .I am amazed (not) how the media, even in covering this story; does not 'go there'. Watergate stands as it's own story. . .embedded in one word/one name.

Ask people what happened; and no one seems to know the inside story as to why it ever came about. . .

And now, one myth is begetting another. . .a 'hero' who saved his Country from Nixon. . .comes out of anonymity. . .

The barf of it all. . .

66 posted on 06/02/2005 5:01:53 AM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket; Former Military Chick

>The barf of it all.

Yup. Lost is the history of 1960 - 72 during which dirty tricks, wiretapping, and burglery were put to use against Nixon, some say invented, by the ilk of JFK and LBJ, the mindless hatred of him like that we see now against W, all the context of Nixon's late political life. Nixon lost his battle. But we're still at the same war. I am curious about G.G. Liddy's take on this.


67 posted on 06/02/2005 6:09:32 AM PDT by GopherIt
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To: Former Military Chick

Stein is correct. What was that Watergate breakin all about compared to Bill Clinton.


68 posted on 06/02/2005 6:18:43 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: PeteAtomic

"The U.S. under Nixon invaded Cambodia, which had been a neutral power during the war in Vietnam. "

A neutral power? They allowed the NVA to use Cambodia as a supply route and staging site to attack SVN for years and that is neutral?


69 posted on 06/02/2005 6:21:45 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Odear
"Loyal economic ally"? You can't possibly be serious. They're doing everything they can to take over our economy.
70 posted on 06/02/2005 7:48:34 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Former Military Chick
my good friend Ben Stein.

I'd like a Ben Stein autographed sneaker...if you see him getting low-in-the-tread, please drop the hint on my behalf...

71 posted on 06/02/2005 8:20:02 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: Former Military Chick; zot; Interesting Times

Thanks FMC


Ping


72 posted on 06/02/2005 8:23:23 AM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: MHGinTN
Liddy claims that the original reason was a scheme by Johnny Dean to shield connection between his wife and a call girl ring run by the Dem's and the purposes just grew. Once launched, and later discovered trying to hide the various activietes, Nixon then helped produce a broad enough coverup to protect his people.

Now, despite having lived through it, it hasn't been a item I have stayed with investigating in depth. Nixon, while extremely gifted, was a pragmatist and opportunist in the policies he promoted. I am much more inspired by people that lay down principles upon which they will act and base their service upon. McCain is much like Dick.

73 posted on 06/02/2005 8:31:20 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: ndkos

Stein was in St. Louis over election weekend. We were there to work in the campaign and spoke with him at the airport.

That said, his argument in this piece is absurd. We were losing in Vietnam before Watergate, and keeping Nixon in office would not have changed that, nor could Nixon have stopped the Khmer Rouge. The US was withdrawing from southeast asia in 1972, and Nixon was not going to further escalate the conflict into Cambodia.

If you want to look back, consider this: had Nixon not left office, we likely would not have been tortured by four years of Jimmy Carter, but we also would probably never have had a Reagan presidency. Some things turn out for the best.


74 posted on 06/02/2005 8:33:40 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: inquest

Presidents neither sponsor nor cosponsor bills.


75 posted on 06/02/2005 8:57:40 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: latina4dubya

Didn't know that about him. I didn't figure he was that old.


76 posted on 06/02/2005 9:04:32 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Former Military Chick

LOL re your 1st comment.
He's totally right here, I really enjoy his insight and courage to take things to their logical conclusion.


77 posted on 06/02/2005 9:14:50 AM PDT by Sarah
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Howard Stern is the mental and moral equivalent of a Larry Flynt Light.


78 posted on 06/02/2005 9:51:23 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: metesky
Correct, he didn't cosponsor it in the formal sense. But he was very much involved in drawing it up and pushing for it.
79 posted on 06/02/2005 10:47:27 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: nonliberal
I didn't figure he was that old.

i know what you mean... i was just thinking last night that he had to be pretty young when he worked for Nixon... i looked on his website, and he was born in 1944... he graduated from Yale Law in 1970 (valedictorian)...

In 1973 and 1974, he was a speech writer and lawyer for Richard Nixon at The White House and then for Gerald Ford. (He did NOT write the line, "I am not a crook.")

The man leads an amazing life.

He has written and published sixteen books, seven novels, largely about life in Los Angeles, and nine nonfiction books, about finance and about ethical and social issue in finance, and also about the political and social content of mass culture. He has done pioneering work in uncovering the concealed messages of TV and in explaining how TV and movies get made. His titles include A License to Steal, Michael Milken and the Conspiracy to Bilk the Nation, The View From Sunset Boulevard, Hollywood Days, Hollywood Nights, DREEMZ, Financial Passages, and Ludes. His most recent book is the best selling humor self help book, How To Ruin Your Life. He has also been a longtime screenwriter, writing, among many other scripts (most of which were unmade ) the first draft of The Boost, a movie based on Ludes, and the outlines of the lengthy miniseries Amerika, and the acclaimed Murder in Mississippi. He was one of the creators of the well regarded comedy, Fernwood Tonight.

He is also an extremely well known actor in movies, TV, and commercials. His part of the boring teacher in Ferris Bueller's Day Off was recently ranked as one of the fifty most famous scenes in American film. Starting in July of 1997, he has been the host of the Comedy Central quiz show, "Win Ben Stein's Money." The show has won seven Emmies. He appears regularly on the Fox News Channel talking about finance. He is currently a celebrity judge on the CBS hit, Star Search.

He is also at presently at work on a detective show for CBS.

80 posted on 06/02/2005 10:48:57 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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