Posted on 06/01/2005 11:26:35 AM PDT by JZelle
Jack Brooks observes the 25 or so women sitting at stainless steel tables, picking lumps of meat out of blue crabs fished from the Chesapeake Bay. There are a handful of Americans and about 18 Mexicans packing up small tubs for sale to restaurants and markets. "We have to have the Mexican workers just to sustain our business. American workers simply are not available," the co-owner of J.M. Clayton Co., a Cambridge, Md., business founded by his great-grandfather in 1890, said last month.
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Si. Actually the going rate is $5.25 per hour, or $2.25 per pound. The companies say one can earn $10 per hour (by picking a little under five pounds per hour), but I think this is an ambitious estimate.
Yes.
If the wage is high enough you will be suprised what people will do.
That is why so many illegals are in prison, crime pays better.
Pardon everybody in prison and we will have solved that problem too.
The latest poll shows that most Americans (81%) prefer the Minuteman solution to the President's proposal. It's really too bad for your side of this that so many bad guys have come in with the ones that really do just want to work. Those baddies have pretty well cemented opinion on this whole thing, I think.
When questioned on the gun issue bayourod admitted that he kept a gun for protection, but he didn't have any bullets.
We are in the presence of genius.
Don't forget to add that those Alaskan Crabbers are working in the most dangerous of industries. Many deaths each year. That tends to drive up the wages.
Using that type of reasoning, we could make dealing illegal drugs legal, and no one will have any problem. Actually, I'm opposed to rewarding anyone for violating the law, whether they be foreigners in the country illegally or Americans dealing illegal drugs.
You got that right!
Then Im sure you have no problem with Marc Rich because he was pardoned.
That would be true for people who say that the only reason crack is bad is because it's illegal, ie. "I'm love legal crack, it's only illegal that I'm against".
But the fact is that crack is intrinsically bad. It was bad before it was made illegal and it's bad after it was made illegal, and if some court strikes down the crack law it will still be bad.
But the anti-illegal immigrant crowd claims to adore legal immigrants but abhor illegal ones. The problem is that in the majority of cases they are the same person. A majority of illegals entered legally. One day a person is legal, the next day he is illegal, but intrinsically he is the same person.
If you can't tell whether you adore or abhor a person without researching his immigration file, you have different values than me.
Isn't that exactly what the anti-illegals believe? "I don't oppose legal Maec Riches , only illegal Marc Riches."
I don't recall exactly what Marc Rich did or what he was convicted of, but if he does bad things he's a bad person regardless of whether his lawyers beat the cases or he was pardoned or is in prison or whatever. If he was a bad person before the pardon he was a bad person after the pardon, IMHO.
If you can't tell whether you adore or abhor a person without researching his immigration file, you have different values than me.
There are many other examples in which your same reasoning could be applied. A contractor has a valid license one day and the next day it expires. If this contractor does work on a person's house after his license expires, he is violating the law, even though intrinsically he is the same person he was before his contractor's license expired.
The same can be said of doctors, nurses, attorneys, engineers, dentists, bus drivers, taxi drivers, or anybody else who needs to have a valid license of some type in order to legally work in their chosen field.
The article is not clear on what their status is.
Would you say that Dr. Smith is one of the finest surgeons in the nation when he is in Ohio, the state where he is licensed, but is an incompetent butcher if he happens to be in a state where he is not licensed?
Is a prostitute a fine mother while in Nevada but an unfit parent when the family visits relatives in California?
Do you believe that illegals are diluting our culture when they speak Spanish but people with visas are not diluting our culture when they speak Spanish?
Do only the illegals have anchor babies, use emergency rooms, have children in bilingual school classes, send money back to families in Mexico, and listen to Spanish language radio stations; whereas legal immigrants do not?
I'd prefer to judge a man by the content of his soul than the color of his immigration file.
Papers please.
No thats exactly what your kind believes. You believe that when this amnesty goes through we should have no problem with former illegals, because now they are "legal". They didnt have respect for our laws and sovereignty before the amnesty, they wont respect those things after.
"One day a person is legal, the next day he is illegal, but intrinsically he is the same person."
Yes the same person that planned to illegaly stay after the visa expired probably before they were granted that visa. A person that doesnt respect our laws and sovereignty.
"I agree, but are you willing to pay $15 for a crab coctail or po'boy?"
I'll have a cheap Po'boy, with a side of hepatitis A, extra tuberculosis, hold the Chagas
Bad argument on so many levels. If he knows his permit is off and knowingly continues work, he is NOT the same person. He has knowingly decided to break the law and there are many consequences of that a act. Insurance risks kick in, if he is caught the project will be abruptly ended, and other bad things may accrue not just to him but to the people he is working for, with and who may be working for him.
You are partially correct that a person who has decided to deliberately break the law and thus steal from a sovereign country is an evil person. Getting amnesty makes them no less evil -- just lucky.
It's been done, and proved to be less than desirable. Have you ever eaten blue crabs? A Maryland crab cake? If so, do you prefer your crab meat "mashed" from an automatic crab picker? Or would you prefer to bite into a good sized back-fin lump?
Already, back-fin costs close to $15 a pound. Want to pay double the minimum wage and pay $25 or more per pound?
By the way, I catch my blue crabs at my dock, and pick them myself. Eat your heart out.
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