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Sect leader will not resist action (Giant Teapot "humiliating Islamic teachings!")
TheStar ^ | May 30, 2005

Posted on 05/31/2005 3:53:49 PM PDT by USF

Sect leader will not resist action BY K. SUTHAKAR

JERTEH: The leader of the “Sky Kingdom” deviationist religious sect said he would not stop the authorities from demolishing the giant structures, including a teapot, on its commune near here. 

Ariffin: ‘Structures created to promote universal unity’
“But the action will seriously tarnish the image of the Government internationally,” said Ariffin Mohamad, 65, better known as Ayah Pin. 

Besides the teapot, the other giant structures on the sect’s commune on land bordering rubber trees and an orchard at Kampung Batu 13 near here, included a vase, umbrella, concrete boat and a “palace.” 

The structures were built over 10 years ago at a cost of more than RM1mil. 

Ayah Pin told this to The Star during an interview at the commune yesterday. He was sitting in a wooden coffeeshop with about 30 followers of all races. 

Rosli Abdul Samad, the liaison officer of the commune, said the structures combined the architectural elements of major religions such as Islam, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism. 

“It is aimed at promoting universal unity. The teapot signifies the purity of water and its medicinal values. It is associated with all major religions, including the water oozing from Lord Shiva’s forehead. 

“The umbrella is a place for people to take shelter beneath God and it can also be associated with the nine planets in Hinduism. 

“The boat symbolises the love of parents.” 

Besut district officer Wan Zahari Wan Ngah said he would act against the landowner, Che Minah Ramlee, 58, who is Ayah Pin’s wife, under Section 129 of the National Land Code. 

He said the section empowers the district office to summon a landowner for a hearing. 

“She must be present at the office within two weeks from the date of the notice to explain why the structures were not demolished,” he added. 

A giant teapot at the ‘Sky Kingdom’ religious sect's commune at Kampung Batu 13 near Jerteh. The deviationist sect led by Ariffin Mohamad, better known as Ayah Pin, has refused to demolish the teapot and other giant structures - including a vase, an umbrella and a concrete boat - on its land as ordered by the Besut district office.

Wan Zahari said they would seek an order from the court to tear down the structures if she failed to attend the hearing. 

“We only allow structures related to agriculture to be build on the land and whatever built now is illegal,” he added. 

Last October, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Dr Abdullah Md Zain had said Ayah Pin was jailed 11 months and fined RM2,900 in June 2001 for humiliating Islamic teachings. 

He had also said that the teachings of Ayah Pin were dangerous since the members of the group had declared themselves as apostates. 


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KEYWORDS: apostate; giantteapot; humiliation; intolerance; islam; malaysia; muslim; rop; sharia; trop; whiningmuslims
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1 posted on 05/31/2005 3:53:51 PM PDT by USF
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To: jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; Fred Nerks; ariamne; Former Dodger; AmericanArchConservative; ...

Gee-what-doesn't-"humilate"-islam? Ping.


2 posted on 05/31/2005 3:55:46 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF
Sounds like more like a garden variety zoning dispute than anything else. It is the wrong zoning for non-ag structures.

If the locals were smart though they'd sell tickets -- it looks a little like fantasy land.
3 posted on 05/31/2005 3:57:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: USF

A friend of mine in college was Malaysian, and was a Methodist if I recall.

Christianity does exist, but mainly in the ethnic Chinese of the area.


4 posted on 05/31/2005 3:58:05 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: USF
For still more profound significance a 5-store tall toilet would be very much in place. Its spiritual meaning [namely, that there are REALLY BIG a**holes!] could be enhanced still more if it were working. The mighty sound of the flush could substitute for the muezzin's call.
5 posted on 05/31/2005 4:02:29 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: USF
"Gee-what-doesn't-"humiliate"-islam? Ping."

A lot of Muslims seem to have very fragile, unstable egos. I think at some level they don't believe their own religion, and must therefore destroy any visible signs of unbelief or apostasy to protect their psyches from their own unacknowledged lack of belief.
6 posted on 05/31/2005 4:02:51 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: USF
"Gee-what-doesn't-"humilate"-islam?"

I'm guessing that the latrine built out of korans is going to be a problem too.

7 posted on 05/31/2005 4:03:31 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: USF
A teapot is an insult to Muslims? I wonder if those evil interrogators in Gitmo have been dangling teapots in front of the prisoners? I guess the Muslims had better burn down a few more KFC's.
8 posted on 05/31/2005 4:05:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: BenLurkin
Please read the link in the comment... its an issue of islamic law (sharia) encroaching on the rights of all Malaysians (Muslim Bumiputra, and non-bumi alike), and the trumped up charges they'll sometimes use to push they way thru.

Members of this group have been labeled apostates, they refuse to follow the state invented "Islam Hidari" and they are being persecuted, while the Koranimals at PAS grow stronger...

In Malaysia (I speak as someone who has lived there as a dhimmi expat), they often don't get rid of you you using the direct route... remember Anwar Ibrahim?

9 posted on 05/31/2005 4:08:25 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: BenLurkin

They need some Giant Teacups to go with the Teapot!

;-)


10 posted on 05/31/2005 4:09:17 PM PDT by tiamat (Can't sleep...clowns will get me..can't sleep...clowns will get me...can't sleep....clowns will get)
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To: USF
I am amazed that Ayah Pin is still alive, given what is in the longer article. That something this utterly harmless is taken so seriously is illustrative of the dangers of Islam. In Thailand, similar "cults" spring up, flourish and pass on constantly and no one is harmed.
11 posted on 05/31/2005 4:10:30 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

Sadly, Thailand is having trouble with islamists as well..


12 posted on 05/31/2005 4:13:35 PM PDT by tiamat (Can't sleep...clowns will get me..can't sleep...clowns will get me...can't sleep....clowns will get)
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To: JimSEA

Yup, locals can find themselves in indefinite detention (along with the customary beatings) over the most trivial of matters. The national and international publicity this guys getting may be one of the few things that are protecting him... so far.


13 posted on 05/31/2005 4:15:23 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF

"The problem goes back to the way Malaysia was formed on independence from Britain in 1957. The federal constitution gives the government power over most daily matters. But the sultans, the royal families in each state, were given the compensation prize of power over such things as religion. Religious law thus varies from state to state and depends on the personalities involved. A recent speech by the Sultan of Selangor was hailed by the progressive camp as a beacon of light because he suggested that overzealous interpretation of Islamic laws would only turn younger generations against the faith."

The Sultan is right, islam is losing its youth around the world, replacing the next generation of followers with psychopaths and deviants from jails.


14 posted on 05/31/2005 4:38:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Selangor is also the most advanced and affluent of all the states where they have the most contact with foreigners (apart from in the capital itself which is surrounded by Selangor).

It holds a higher proportion of non-Muslims (Christian, Buddhist, taoist, Chinese, and Hindu, Christian and Sikh Indians) than most other states, who ensured it's economic success over that of the backward predominantly Muslim states.

The Muslim youth there come into contact with ideas and cultures of the west, and capitalist south east asia, in the large booming metropolitan areas and shun the backward and primitive lives of the malay kampongs (villages) their parents crawed out of... hence "Balik kampong" ("go back to your village") is a local phrase used to insult the more primative Muslims. ;o)

15 posted on 05/31/2005 5:01:54 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF

You know a LOT about this!

Thank you for posting it!

(Good tag-line, BTW!)


16 posted on 05/31/2005 5:12:41 PM PDT by tiamat (Can't sleep...clowns will get me..can't sleep...clowns will get me...can't sleep....clowns will get)
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To: USF
hope this won't humiliate islam and muslims :)

A place formerly known as the ka'abah in mecca.

player's comments: world series in mecca: yankees sweep hajj!

in case you're wondering where the Ka'abah used to be, that's where the "Hebrew National" sign is.


17 posted on 05/31/2005 5:16:57 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: tiamat

Thanks, and you're welcome! ;o)


18 posted on 05/31/2005 5:21:21 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Random Nonsense

Hebrew Nationals are the best!

Especially if done up "Chicago Style"!


19 posted on 05/31/2005 5:23:51 PM PDT by tiamat (Can't sleep...clowns will get me..can't sleep...clowns will get me...can't sleep....clowns will get)
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To: Random Nonsense

It looks like the pitcher is tossing whats left of their black rock...


20 posted on 05/31/2005 5:24:04 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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