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Age-old debate over N.C. barbecue fired up
AP Wire ^ | May 29, 2005 | AP Wire

Posted on 05/29/2005 11:47:02 AM PDT by varina davis

Age-Old Debate Over N.C. Barbecue Fired Up

By MARTHA WAGGONER Associated Press Writer

10:15 AM PDT, May 29, 2005

ARCADIA, N.C. — Fourth-graders here expected a civics lesson when they suggested that the Lexington Barbecue Festival be named the state's official food festival. Instead, they got a lesson in the fierce intrastate rivalry over barbecue that pits west vs. east, tomato vs. vinegar and whole shoulder against whole pig.

"I didn't know so many people would be asking questions and wanting to know how I feel about it," said 10-year-old Kaylyn Vaughan. "You have to realize it is a very big deal."

While Texas generally unites behind beef brisket, Kansas City has its slathered ribs and South Carolina holds dear to its mustard-sauced pork, North Carolinians are divided about their two distinct barbecue styles.

Crowning one style as "official" would be a mistake, said Bob Garner, author of the book "North Carolina Barbecue," which doesn't take a stand on which version is supreme.

"The whole story of barbecue in North Carolina is about these two distinct styles and this fun, family argument that we just refuse to get rid of," Garner said. "People love to argue about this."

North Carolina's western barbecue, also known as Lexington or Piedmont, is made from the shoulder of the hog and has a red, tomato-based sauce. Eastern style takes seriously an old North Carolina adage -- "We use every part of the pig except the squeal" -- and uses a vinegar-based sauce.

The argument about which is best has waged forever, although Garner said eastern style came first. The state's tourism division even conducted an online poll in 2002. Thousands of votes were cast, with eastern winning by a snout, although the head of the Lexington visitors bureau demanded a recount.

The pupils of Friedberg Elementary School in west-central North Carolina fired up the fight innocently enough in February when they decided to undertake a civics project. They could have studied the state tree, the state bird or the state fish. They chose food.

They wrote letters to lawmakers asking that the one-day Lexington event, one of Travel & Leisure magazine's Top 10 food festivals, be named the "state food festival."

Two lawmakers obliged, but when the bills were filed, they mistakenly called for Lexington's event to become the "state barbecue festival."

The damage was done.

"Remind lawmakers that while our humble pig may not get the publicity Lexington gathers from the lying Yankee press, we still put on a pretty good show," columnist Dennis Rogers, a protector of eastern-style, wrote in The News & Observer of Raleigh.

The High Point Enterprise defended the western style, calling it barbecue from "a lean, filet of pork shoulder in Lexington, not all of Old McDonald's pig."

From there, the students' lesson became political. A House committee recommended the festival receive the state designation last month, but the bill ended up in another committee. In the Senate, the bill has been stuck in committee since it was filed.

"I don't really expect that the bill will be heard," said one of its sponsors, Sen. Stan Bingham, a Republican from the Lexington style's home turf of Davidson County.

Bingham denies the bill was meant to say Lexington-style barbecue tastes better than eastern style. "It's just indicating that 150,000 people come to Lexington for the festival," he said, somewhat unconvincingly.

That's what the Friedberg children say as well. And they manage to say it without an arched eyebrow in the bunch.

"I wish we could all get along," said 10-year-old James Lumley.

Then he gets down and dirty.

"I know that we all think western is better than eastern," he said, pointing around the table at three friends, "and I think western is better."

Garner gives the nod to western-style barbecue on two counts: its aficionados have done a better job of sticking to pit-cooked barbecue than their eastern counterparts, who have no big barbecue festival comparable to Lexington's.

But Garner believes it is heresy to pass a bill that essentially gives western-style the imprimatur of being the best.

"I just think it would be a shame to set up either eastern or Lexington as the official thing when it's all about the friendly debate."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: barbecue; bbq; debate; fired; lyingyankeepress; nc
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To: varina davis
The eastern style with the vinegar is awesome.

If anyone ever gets to go to Greensboro, NC, don't miss an opportunity to go to Stamey's BBQ.

Mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm!
121 posted on 05/29/2005 4:47:41 PM PDT by AlGone2001 (I'm still waiting to hear from the RNC Chairman)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

Whoaaaa that a complicated recipie ;)
Barbados Molasses?
Moxie? Where Am I gonna find those things? :)


122 posted on 05/29/2005 4:49:22 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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The best BBQ you'll ever eat:

http://www.stameys.com/


123 posted on 05/29/2005 4:50:13 PM PDT by AlGone2001 (I'm still waiting to hear from the RNC Chairman)
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To: mylife

Nah!
Not complicated...
Moxie is distributed most all places..
I think plain old molasses would probably do just fine!
Ms.B


124 posted on 05/29/2005 4:50:54 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (If it is not right, do not do it; if it is not true, do not say it. Marcus Aurelius)
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To: 76834

I'll remember Betty's but I haven't been to Abilene in 20 years. I live in Alabama and these boys here think the only conceivable things to BBQ are pork and chicken. I miss beef BBQ.


125 posted on 05/29/2005 4:53:47 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Be careful what you ask for, you may get it.)
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To: hoppity

Did Bobby's overlook a lake? I know the place where you were eating. It's not the best BBQ around here.

I hope you enjoyed your stay.


126 posted on 05/29/2005 4:55:00 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Flashback.)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

Id like to try that recipe

Ive added coffee to my tomato based sauces..it gives a rich complexity.

Some use cola some use chocolate as secret ingrediants..but the sugar burns. Ya gotta know what yer doin


127 posted on 05/29/2005 4:58:45 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Just a reminder, that the recipe I posted in an eating sauce, not a cookin' sauce!
It's really good, try it!
Ms.B


128 posted on 05/29/2005 5:00:42 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (If it is not right, do not do it; if it is not true, do not say it. Marcus Aurelius)
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To: MplsSteve; Slings and Arrows; blackdog; RobFromGa
Maurice's BBQ Online This was the place that Wal-Mart and other stores took his sauce off the shelf because of the Rebel flag. Maurice is based in Columbia,SC.

 The sauce is very good.

129 posted on 05/29/2005 5:01:11 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Flashback.)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

" that the recipe I posted in an eating sauce, not a cookin' sauce!"

Ohh I understand


130 posted on 05/29/2005 5:09:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Maurices sauce looks very nice


131 posted on 05/29/2005 5:12:14 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: davetex; ncpatriot
What's the name of that famous joint in Rocky Mount? I ate there about 15 years ago, it was great, but I can't remember the name of it.

Parkers.

132 posted on 05/29/2005 5:13:05 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: Melas
"Ain't but three things in this world that's worth a solitary dime: old dogs, children, and watermelon wine." And, I might add, barbecue.
133 posted on 05/29/2005 5:45:15 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: cherry
Cherry, the "Cornell recipe" was developed at Cornell University in New York, I've been told. Folks here use in on their catered barbecued chicken.
134 posted on 05/29/2005 5:47:07 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: tet68
Sorry, diabetes. Anyway, sugar kills any thirst quenching properties, at least for me.

Try Splenda®.

135 posted on 05/29/2005 5:58:57 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: varina davis

Don't get me wrong, I like BBQ. It tastes good. I just can't imagine actually debating the merits of different sauces and techniques. I love it all myself. BBQ pork, brisket, sausage, and even the good old grilled burger or hot dog.


136 posted on 05/29/2005 6:00:41 PM PDT by Melas
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To: varina davis

I thought the only real choice was mesquite or oak.


137 posted on 05/29/2005 6:20:53 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: tarheelswamprat

Thanks


138 posted on 05/29/2005 6:39:21 PM PDT by davetex (hippies and rinos stink, no really I'm not joking.)
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To: tet68
UNSWEET Tea!

INFIDEL.


139 posted on 05/29/2005 6:44:40 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: ncpatriot; davetex; Constitution Day
Bob Melton's closed down last year, I think it was. They finally abandoned the old site near the river...got flooded out too many times. They weren't able to make a go of it at the new location, and finally closed for good.

So now it's Gardner's, in several locations. The biggest and best is off Rt. 301 just north of the Benvenue overpass, on the east side of the highway.

140 posted on 05/29/2005 6:48:06 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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