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I don't see how it is junk science. I hate it when people have no respect for others and smoke right outside a public entrance. Yes, you can step around it, but you shouldn't have to. If people are off a ways, that's fine, but I don't like the smell on me and my clothes. That's a simple courtesy, not junk science. I can see your private property point (say that three times fast). People should have a right to smoke around their private property.

More often than not the only reason the people are standing outside is because of stupid smoking bans. If they were allowed a room inside or be able to smoke inside the bar, they wouldn't be outside at the door.

Plus add #3, Republicans who are for smoking bans are generally hard core RINOs on everything else.

Pataki, Rowland, Bloomberg and Bruno for example are more to the left than most Democrats. You see a Republican supporting a smoking ban it's pretty much guarantees they are a RINO in regards to everything else.

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More often than not the only reason the people are standing outside is because of stupid smoking bans. If they were allowed a room inside or be able to smoke inside the bar, they wouldn't be outside at the door. Plus add #3, Republicans who are for smoking bans are generally hard core RINOs on everything else. Pataki, Rowland, Bloomberg and Bruno for example are more to the left than most Democrats. You see a Republican supporting a smoking ban it's pretty much guarantees they are a RINO in regards to everything else.

Actually, I don't see smoking as a conservative/liberal issue. I guess I can see smoking bans as a government intrusion, but certainly not the sole quantifier as someone being a liberal or rino.

I have no problem with smoking rooms as long as they get used I guess. I certainly like having them at airports. I don't have problems with allowing smoking in bars too as that's a place where you expect it. I see smoking in the same terms as alcohol and drugs.

I personally don't see anything good about smoking (unless it's the tobacco suit money that governmeng seems to use for everything but what it was intended for). I don't support completely banning it either. However, I don't think we should encourage it with all the harm it does, especially in terms of medical bills which get passed along to the rest of us in some form eventually.

Back home we have this bowling alley where a lot of families used to go. Now, not very many go there as it has added gambling and the smoking there makes it almost unbearable.