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1 posted on 05/27/2005 2:27:36 AM PDT by Lindykim
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2 posted on 05/27/2005 2:28:36 AM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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Very well written! Good arguments and quotes which I will print off and try to incorporate into further discussions. I haev had occasion on this forum and others to try to establish that the fact that I, as an MIT graduate (math, not biology, alas), totally reject the hypothesis of evolutionism. The reaction of the motivated evolutionists is invariably one of ridicule and insult. This suggests purposefulness on their part, yet there is a denial of purpose in the universe.

I do not know why there is not a stronger argument for their religious faith in evolutionism than to tell me that I'm ignorant and to go do some reading of a list of books, none of which prove a thing to me in a scientific sense since they merely use the dense mass of scientific data to support their claim to be the authority figure. And you can not realistically deny that they have put a lot of work into it, as though that automatically produced truth.

So we are faced with ad hominem arguments, appeal to authority, and logical leaps instead of proof.

4 posted on 05/27/2005 3:31:18 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Lindykim; TigersEye
Good for you, Linda Kimball! I applaud your meditations and your workmanship in crafting this essay. It is full of keen insight defended by rational arguments which cut through the fog of atheistic-matierialist mind-junk, that stuff which passes for thought in academia these days. It rightly concludes with the call to choose, choose ye this day whom you will serve.

May it be widely read and contemplated with reason equal to that with which it is written.

5 posted on 05/27/2005 3:35:15 AM PDT by .30Carbine (Open our eyes that we may see wondrous things out of Your Law!)
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To: Lindykim
Just found the link to Militant Atheism And 'Nonpersons' As 'Natural Resources".
I look forward to reading that one, too. Thanks so much.
6 posted on 05/27/2005 3:42:41 AM PDT by .30Carbine (Open our eyes that we may see wondrous things out of Your Law!)
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From the article:
"In other words, the science of secular humanism is just quackery."

Indeed. As we have long suspected.

There are no proofs or solid logical conclusions leading to the ontological presuppositions of scientism. Materialism is essentially a mythology prompted by non-rational fears, anxieties, and bigotries. Not infrequently peppered with sexual anxieties or bitter childhood experiences with institutional religion and/or pathological parenting. The desire to impose this secular ideology on everyone else is one of the leading social disorders of the modern era. As we so often see in the hysterical posturing of liberalism.

7 posted on 05/27/2005 3:44:43 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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8 posted on 05/27/2005 4:05:04 AM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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Excellent read-ThankYou--Just responded to Bill Press on WND
on his silly rant WWJD on stem cell research.He attempted sleight of hand claiming we know Jesus went around healing.
I responded with a handful of Bible citations from old and new testaments and concluded we know Jeus Never destroyed life to heal.


9 posted on 05/27/2005 4:15:49 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Lindykim
If anything it is the passing of genes.

The genetic survival/selection engine is a fact. Where Dawkins goes wrong is that he assumes that it somehow disproves the existence of God. This engine was created by God and appears to be the way God chose to create our physical bodies. But we are more than superevolved primates.

How could a random genetic survival/selection engine create and sustain - for instance - free will or the religious impulse? Dawkins - and most humanists - seem to assume that free will is a perceptual error made by the complex human brain. However, believing that you don't have free will is on the same level as believing you're made from plastic - its delusional. Dawkins must in effect deny his own humanity and observation of his own free will in order to save his materialist worldview.

We are indeed extraordinarily separate from the animals. There is something supernatural about us. You don't have to have letters after your name to see this. But poor old Richard can't

11 posted on 05/27/2005 4:29:38 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Lindykim

A good editor might assist you in learning the proper usage of apostrophes and commas. The misplaced punctuation makes this difficult to read.


12 posted on 05/27/2005 4:50:19 AM PDT by Amelia (Common sense isn't particularly common.)
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To: Lindykim

Fantastic article, Lindy!!

Thank you for the work that you're doing in His name!


17 posted on 05/27/2005 6:06:14 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Para espanol, marque el dos.")
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To: Lindykim

READ LATER


20 posted on 05/27/2005 7:32:45 AM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Lindykim

ttt


28 posted on 05/27/2005 2:14:04 PM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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