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No Intentional Abuse of Koran at Guantánamo, General Says
The New York Times ^ | May 26, 2005 | NEIL A. LEWIS/ DAVID STOUT

Posted on 05/26/2005 7:43:01 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

WASHINGTON, May 26 - The American military commander at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, said today that investigators had found "no credible evidence" that a Koran had ever been flushed down a toilet there to unsettle detainees, and no serious incidents of intentional mishandling of the Muslim holy book by Americans.

The commander, Brig. Gen. Jay W. Hood of the Army, said 13 possible incidents had been investigated in which the book might have been mishandled: 10 by guards and 3 by interrogators. Of the 13, only 5 embody "what could be broadly defined as mishandling of a Koran," the general said, but declined to provide details.

In several other incidents, he said, guards had accidentally touched the book or touched it "within the scope of their duties." And in two other incidents, both involving interrogations, there was possible inadvertent mishandling, General Hood said.

"We've also identified 15 incidents where detainees mishandled or inappropriately treated the Koran, one of which was the specific example of a detainee who ripped pages out of their own Koran," the general said.

The general's Pentagon briefing was part of an attempt to quell bitter feelings in the Muslim world sparked by reports of mistreatment of the holy book. General Hood said he was confident that the guard force's procedures for handling the book were adequate, but he also said that they were continually reviewed.

As for the detainees, he said, "this is not a benign group of people." He said the prisoners constituted "a clear and present danger" to the United States, and that interrogations continued to provide valuable intelligence.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; detainees; dod; gitmo; guantnamobay; korandesecration

1 posted on 05/26/2005 7:43:01 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: blogblogginaway

they continue to lend credibility to these allegations by having investigation after investigation, answering charges, lending credence to the insane idea that a book can't be touched because its some kind of crime against god.

just shutup already about the Koran.


2 posted on 05/26/2005 7:47:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: blogblogginaway
WHY doesn't the MSM ask:  HOW DID those Korans get into that prison in the FIRST PLACE?  Huh?

( And : Do Arab and Muslim prisons supply Bibles for Christian and Jewish inmates? Huh? Huh?)

3 posted on 05/26/2005 7:53:46 PM PDT by FreeKeys (About our Anti-American Americans: http://freedomkeys.com/anti-americans.htm)
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To: oceanview
just shutup already about the Koran.

I wish they would do some sort of poll on this subject; I'd give them an earful.

4 posted on 05/26/2005 8:00:18 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: blogblogginaway

I'm tired of these "news" stories. If they go on much longer, I will buy a copy of the Koran and start using its pages as toilet paper.


5 posted on 05/26/2005 10:10:29 PM PDT by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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No Intentional Abuse of Koran at Guantánamo, General Says

Is this intentional? Here's a Koran being burned.

Damned straight it's intentional. Oh, sorry, I guess it's not a problem though. Americans aren't the ones burning it. It must be OK then.

6 posted on 05/27/2005 10:20:17 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: oceanview
***just shutup already about the Koran.***

And that is just what we need our generals and leaders to say. This is getting ridiculous that so much attention is being paid to their touchy-feely yammering.

7 posted on 05/27/2005 10:34:34 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: FreedomCalls

Headlinespeak doesn't do the statement justice. Of course he means the Americans.


8 posted on 05/27/2005 10:36:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: FreedomCalls

That looks awfully Photoshoppy. Where are the charred edges of the paper?


9 posted on 05/27/2005 10:38:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That looks awfully Photoshoppy. Where are the charred edges of the paper?

I believe you are seeing it immediately after the lighter fluid that was poured on it was lit, therefore no charring. See the man holding the box of matches in the foreground?

10 posted on 05/27/2005 10:43:51 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Got another question, isn't Arabic a right-to-left reading language (like Hebrew)? The writing looks fuzzily Arabic, but notice where the line breaks are on the right-hand page. The text is not aligned on the page appropriate to a language like that.


11 posted on 05/27/2005 10:50:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The text is not aligned on the page appropriate to a language like that.

Looks fine to me. All the lines are both right and left justified as Arabis Korans are. The 3rd and 4th lines are indented like a blockquote, either to set off a quote or a heading, again, as is done reoutinely in manuscript Korans. Here are three other examples of a manuscript Koran to compare it to:


12 posted on 05/27/2005 11:10:34 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You know that on the left-hand page the text is both left and right-justified. You can't see the right-hand side because the photo overexposed the part in sunshine, you can only see the part in the shadow of the man's hand. That bright curvy end-of-text that runs down the middle of the page is an artifact of the sun and shadow, it's not depicting a left-justified only text.


13 posted on 05/27/2005 11:15:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

It's hard to make out what's near the spine in the "fire" picture, due to the glare on the paper, but it doesn't look to be center indented.


14 posted on 05/27/2005 11:18:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: FreedomCalls

I mean, on the right. I know the left is more visible in the shade than in the glare.


15 posted on 05/27/2005 11:20:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It's hard to make out what's near the spine in the "fire" picture, due to the glare on the paper, but it doesn't look to be center indented.

It's impossible to tell because it's cut off by the glare, but it looks to me just like the second line of this page from a Koran. It even has the page number at the top center, and the chapter name on the top right outside of the box.


16 posted on 05/27/2005 11:27:57 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

It looks a little bit like music notation on magic mushrooms.


17 posted on 05/27/2005 11:35:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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