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CA: Mexican reparation bills pass in Senate and committee
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/26/05 | AP

Posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO (AP) - The state Senate voted Thursday to formally apologize for the deportation of Mexican-Americans citizens between 1929 and 1944 as part of a program that was designed to create jobs during the Depression.

About 2 million Hispanics, including 400,000 Californians, were sent to Mexico during that period. It was devised by the Hoover administration to get rid of illegal immigrants and open up jobs, but most of the people deported were American citizens or legal immigrants, said Sen. Joe Dunn, the author of the bill.

Dunn, D-Santa Ana, learned of the little-known chapter in American history from a book he read on a transcontinental flight. The practice targeted anyone with a Mexican-sounding name and continued in California and other states after the Roosevelt administration cut off funding.

Sen. Nell Soto, D-Pomona, said that when she was a little girl she watched helplessly as neighbors of Mexican descent were trucked and bused away from her neighborhood. Her family was spared because her father, of Spanish descent, had lighter hair and blue eyes.

"We stood in the doorway watching this horrendous situation taking place," Soto said. "It was probably the saddest day in the city."

Sen. Jack Scott, D-Pasadena, said the measure was akin to the federal government apologizing for slavery. Acknowledging such wrongs is the mark of a great nation, he said.

The bill would formally express an apology for the deportations and require the placement of a plaque in a public place to commemorate the deportees.

The Senate passed the measure 27-5, sending it to the Assembly.

In related action, the Senate Appropriations Committee approved another Dunn bill that would create a fund to pay reparations to surviving deportees who file claims. It would take separate legislation, however, to put money in that account.

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On the Net:

Read bills, SB670 and SB645, at http://www.sen.ca.gov/


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; joedunn; mexicanreparations; reparations; sb645; sb670
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To: NormsRevenge

Take my name OFF THE LIST.

I didn't do anything either way, and I REFUSE to 'apologize' for other peoples moronic psyches.


21 posted on 05/26/2005 7:43:23 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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To: Publius6961

"...most of the people deported were American citizens..."

Most. Many. Some. These descriptions are all very vague. Senatore Dunn is beginning to lose credibility among many readers. Please. Exactly how many were American citizens? What were their names? How can we verify this? Did this happen at all? Or did Senatore Dunn just make it up?
There are many question to be answered here.


22 posted on 05/26/2005 8:50:18 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: Publius6961

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1403814/posts


23 posted on 05/26/2005 9:19:24 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Publius6961

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826315755/103-6334701-5172629


24 posted on 05/26/2005 9:20:38 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://campusapps.fullerton.edu/news/2005/valenciana.html


25 posted on 05/26/2005 9:31:02 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It will be interesting to see how many Freepers support deporting American citizens due to race. Race sometimes seems to trump citizenship in Conservative thought.


26 posted on 05/26/2005 9:35:26 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just how did Mexicans become citizens back then? Did they go the same route as European immigrants?


27 posted on 05/26/2005 9:42:27 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: jackbenimble

Franklin D. Roosevelt 32nd President of the United States 1932-1945


28 posted on 05/26/2005 10:28:22 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: speedy

Right. We could all sing kumbaya at the friendship table.


29 posted on 05/26/2005 10:31:01 PM PDT by jammer
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To: KingNo155

Sorry elected in 1932 sworn into ofiice 1933


30 posted on 05/26/2005 10:52:07 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes siree, gotta keep on pushing that collective guilt on whitey


31 posted on 05/26/2005 11:20:54 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you don't hafta)
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To: NormsRevenge
About 2 million Hispanics, including 400,000 Californians, were sent to Mexico during that period. It was devised by the Hoover administration to get rid of illegal immigrants and open up jobs, but most of the people deported were American citizens or legal immigrants, said Sen. Joe Dunn, the author of the bill.

Every liberal story has a big lie at its center. The big lie here is that most of the people deported were American citizens or legal immigrants,. In fact, essentially the vast majority deported were illegal immigrants at that time. More precisely they were the children of illegal aliens.

It wasn't until FDR packed the courts that children of illegal aliens were considered citizens if they were born in the US. Until the 1940s, the 14th Amendment was not interpreted to extend citizenship automatically to aliens. The SCOTUS still hasn't addressed these lower court rulings that give Senator Dunn the plausible denial to promote of his cause with impunity.

The liberal myth associated with the 14th Amendment is so imbued in the US culture that probably many on this forum believe that all provisions applied to it by Roosevelt appointees have been tested by the SCOTUS.

32 posted on 05/27/2005 5:32:46 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: VeniVidiVici
Just how did Mexicans become citizens back then?

From the later half of the 19th century until WWII Hispanics composed a stable 15% of California's population, most a residual from Mexico's 9 year rule over California in the early 19th century.

The flood gates of illegal immigration from Mexico were opened in the 1960s. Today about 35% of the state residents, 40% of its public school students and 50% of it's new borns are Hispanic.

33 posted on 05/27/2005 5:42:47 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: jackbenimble; NormsRevenge
The article says that the deportations took place between 1929 and 1944. Hoover may have started the policy but the majority of that time period FD Roosevelt was in office and he obviously didn't stop it. I wonder why the article fails to mention this hero of the left?

Standard operating procedure of the Left Wing MSM.

34 posted on 05/27/2005 12:04:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Publius6961; NormsRevenge
Dunn, D-Santa Ana,

?????

I thought Dunn was Garden Grove....now that is where all of the Vietnamese ...legal immigrants ....live. Wonder how they feel about his border feelings.?

35 posted on 05/27/2005 12:08:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

>>I thought Dunn was Garden Grove....now that is where all of the Vietnamese ...legal immigrants ....live. Wonder how they feel about his border feelings.?


http://www.overlawyered.com/archives/001327.html

July 22, 2004
Calif. state senator Joe Dunn

He made a fortune suing doctors, then moved up to the California State Senate as a Democrat representing Orange County communities including Anaheim, Santa Ana, Fullerton and Garden Grove. Now he's one of the chief guardians of trial lawyer interests in Sacramento. Will he run for state attorney general in 2006? (Michael A. Glueck, "The runaway trial lawyer", Jewish World Review, Jul. 9). Dunn was chief sponsor of the first-in-the-nation bill signed into law by Gov. Gray Davis last year, authorizing lawyers to file private damage suits over labor code violations; see Oct. 20.


36 posted on 05/27/2005 11:05:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: MassachusettsGOP
“The restriction of immigration is a Republican policy. Our party formulated and enacted into law the quota system, which for the first time has made possible an adequate control of foreign immigration. Rigid examination of applicants in foreign countries prevented the coming of criminals and other undesirable classes while other provisions of the law have enabled the President to suspend immigration of foreign wage-earners who otherwise, directly or indirectly, would have increased unemployment among native born and legally resident foreign born wage-earners in this country…We favor the continuance and strict enforcement of our present laws upon this subject.”
--1932 Republican Party Platform

The 1928 platform has a simular sentiment. Of course if Hoover were alive today, the RINOs would claim he's a xenophobic racist demagogue who doesn't "belong" in the Republican Party (see Chris Cannon's comments to Tom Tancredo)

37 posted on 05/27/2005 11:08:56 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP - www.NOLaHood.com)
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To: NormsRevenge; Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Boazo; JohnHuang2; keri; ...
We all know how a shark acts when it tastes or smells blood - It goes in for the KILL.

The activity at Baldwin Park and Garden Grove has provided that scent of BLOOD to the ILLEGALS and their violent supporters. They now know for SURE that this Administration is not going to do anything to them no matter what they do.

They are FREE to kill, maim, rob, destroy to their hearts content and they will not be punished. They have been given the word that they are free to RUN WILD AND CREATE MAYHEM at will.

As soon as the Kennedy-McCain bill hit the news the Reconquista's grabbed their weapons and hit the streets. We are going to see much more of this - they have clearly stated their intentions and they are now moving forward. There is NO PLACE in America safe from them as they have been putting their boots into every area of America for years.

Many have taken spots in government to ensure that laws and rules are made to allow the DESTRUCTION BY ILLEGALS.

Watch the Mayor in LA and how he will allow the increase in violence.

The issue to ILLEGALS without pin pointing any particular segment - it is the MEXICANS who are at the core of this. This exact same thing occurred beginning in the late 40's in S. California.

Mexicans moved in turned the place to trash and when whites tries to sell only Mexicans would buy - thus increasing the trashing of an entire area. This is so unfair to those Mexicans who came here legally, did all they could to assimilate and become AMERICANS. I have Mexican friends who are not like the trash that comes here illegally and brings all their disease, drugs, low life style.

It is so unfortunate knowing that they are being lumped in with the trash. That is one reason why I have denied saying it is Mexicans - not all are of the criminal mindset and I know they hate what is happening.

They see America as THEIR country and the ILLEGALS (Mexicans) in the same way we do.

If you aren't upset enough - read the following article....

We are, as a friend of mine said yesterday, in the new CIVIL WAR in America. It will pit family against family - neighbor against neighbor and race against race.... just as the NWO gang intended.

They set the playing field to accomplish this and will make sure they keep the borders OPEN to let more Mexican street fighters in to take America down.

Good old Lefty Je$$e Jackson and Al $harpton have made their deals with Vicente Fox and they will direct their blind followers that the Mexican invasion is good for the Blacks - even though the Blacks are losing far more than anyone in this INVASION.

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SACRAMENTO (AP) - The state Senate voted Thursday to formally apologize for the deportation of Mexican-Americans citizens between 1929 and 1944 as part of a program that was designed to create jobs during the Depression.

About 2 million Hispanics, including 400,000 Californians, were sent to Mexico during that period. It was devised by the Hoover administration to get rid of illegal immigrants and open up jobs, but most of the people deported were American citizens or legal immigrants, said Sen. Joe Dunn, the author of the bill.

Dunn, D-Santa Ana, learned of the little-known chapter in American history from a book he read on a transcontinental flight. The practice targeted anyone with a Mexican-sounding name and continued in California and other states after the Roosevelt administration cut off funding.


38 posted on 05/29/2005 3:36:07 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe; NewRomeTacitus; Judith Anne; Sam the Sham

I see a lot of anger in this post. As you know I am vehemently against illegal immigration, the illegal welfare, the crimes, ect.

However, I am not so sure we are not being diverted by focusing on our borders. CAFTA is the big picture to focus on. Once CAFTA passes all the illegals will have to do is secure a work permit from their home country or Mexican consulate and instantly, they will be made legal.

Our sovereignty is more than just borders. It includes our culture and our high standands.

The NAFTA treaty did not have these 3 little words "more burdensome than" in it. These 3 little words "more burdensome than" are the ones that will destroy America.

When I was looking this up I had nurses and their licenses in mind. Nurses are one of our largest service sectors with high standard licenses so their jobs may be on the chopping block.

Foreign nurses at the present have to pass the current test. Nurses from Mexico can come now if they can pass the test. Very few do this as there is a large disparity in the education standards of American nurses and Mexican standards.

Now to verify what I have said, I am going to ask all of you who have read this to go to

http://www.wto.org then click on search at the top of the page then go to the bottom of the page and in the search engine type in the phrase "more burdensome than".

It is an eye-opener.





39 posted on 05/29/2005 8:15:51 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: texastoo; Happy2BMe; NewRomeTacitus; Judith Anne

Once you get to this page in the wto click on #9 doemstic regulations and then click on professional licenses.


40 posted on 05/29/2005 8:24:11 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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