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Shock Mom and Dad: Become a Neo-Nazi (Right Wing Extremism in Germany)
Der Spiegel ^ | May 23, 2005 | Dominik Cziesche and 5 Co-Authors

Posted on 05/26/2005 12:16:26 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: RedTail

"What's wrong w/ protesting against globalization? Preservation of national sovereignty should be promoted."

It's the combination of socialist politics and anti-globalization that amused me, precisely because International Socialism has been attempting to impose supra-national governance; it is their stated objective and has been for, oh, close to a century. Socialism without globalization is like a.... well, like a bunch of Nazis, really. That is the point I was trying to make. Nationalism combined with socialism does not exactly have a stellar reputation in the world, know what I mean?


41 posted on 05/26/2005 12:51:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: escapefromboston

Unfortunately I don't think its Wagner they like. Some sort of skinhead punk more likely.


42 posted on 05/26/2005 12:52:30 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, okay! I fully understand what you're getting at now. Thanks, for the explanation!


43 posted on 05/26/2005 12:54:20 PM PDT by RedTail
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To: escapefromboston
Neo-nazi music. If it's like the awful stuff the kids listened to before they shot up Columbine, I'm almost ready to revisit my snarky conclusion from post 37.

Yeah, they have a scene similar to the Nazi scene that briefly evolved around punk rock in the US.
44 posted on 05/26/2005 12:54:27 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Mark Steyn)
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To: .cnI redruM

Hitler was also a vegetarian & banned smoking. That is very LEFT WING.


45 posted on 05/26/2005 1:00:10 PM PDT by Feiny (TEAM AMERICA ate my baby!)
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To: blueblazes
He talks as if the group themselves is creating more trouble. A lot of the younguns causing trouble are really big into LaRouche. That would be the lovely group that was involved in the death of a young man that was following them for anti-war activities until they found out he was Jewish. These aren't nice people.
46 posted on 05/26/2005 1:00:45 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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To: feinswinesuksass

"Hitler was also a vegetarian & banned smoking. That is very LEFT WING."

He also went to art school, was rumored to have had a gay affair, didn't have a full set of testicles and farted uncontrollably (due to the vegetarianism, no doubt). All very leftwing also, LOL.


47 posted on 05/26/2005 1:02:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: infidel29

It's been a while since I spent any time with Germans in Germany. My experience was that many of those who didn't live through WWII didn't know very much about it. I got the impression that they learned that Hitler was bad, end of subject. Several times my German acquaintances were embarrassed when discussions came up about WWII with other Europeans. Not because of what happened during the war but because they didn't know enough to participate in the discussion.


48 posted on 05/26/2005 1:03:46 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: feinswinesuksass
I wished I'd known that. I used to know some very left wing Euros who were veggies. I'd have loved to sit down to lunch with them, munch a Philly Cheesesteak and drop in the "Oh, by the way, was Hitler really Europe's foremost vegetarian during the 1930's?"
49 posted on 05/26/2005 1:03:51 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Mark Steyn)
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To: armymarinemom

"A lot of the younguns causing trouble are really big into LaRouche."

Good god, Lyndon LaRouche is still around? I thought he died a long time ago. Xenophobic, cryptofascist Democrat, right? Sort of like a more extreme George Wallace without all the southern baggage?


50 posted on 05/26/2005 1:04:20 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: .cnI redruM

Well, now you can use it on new friends....or foes.


51 posted on 05/26/2005 1:05:38 PM PDT by Feiny (TEAM AMERICA ate my baby!)
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To: .cnI redruM

It's a little deeper than that.
Hitler was an antisemite, Wagner was an antisemite.

Nonetheless, a lot of Wagner's music is beautiful. I personally like Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, although all of you know Ride of the Valkyries from Apocalypse Now, another great piece.

I like some Elton John songs, that doesn't mean I would let him within a mile of my kids!


52 posted on 05/26/2005 1:05:42 PM PDT by opocno (France, the other dead meat)
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To: RegulatorCountry
You mean without Southern manners. He's a Northern Virginian, one of the ones that gives that part of the state the nickname "Occupied Virginia."
53 posted on 05/26/2005 1:06:13 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Mark Steyn)
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To: opocno
>>>Wagner was an antisemite

Bummer, it's a shame Wagner was so deficient in other areas of his life.
54 posted on 05/26/2005 1:07:36 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Mark Steyn)
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To: .cnI redruM

"You mean without Southern manners. He's a Northern Virginian, one of the ones that gives that part of the state the nickname "Occupied Virginia."

I was really hoping he was one of those midwestern-populist-gone-round-the-bend types. We've had our share down here already.


55 posted on 05/26/2005 1:08:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: .cnI redruM

He was also a hypocritcal one....no big surprise as many vegetarians are:

Otto D. Tolischus in 1937 in The New York Times pointed out that the Führer was a vegetarian who 'does not drink or smoke' but who also 'occasionally relishes a slice of ham' along with delicacies such as caviar and chocolates." (Ibid.) Proctor is content to state that Hitler was a vegetarian who "occasionally would allow himself a dish of meat," (p. 135) and quotes The New York Times as stating that in addition to ham and caviar Hitler also occasionally ate squab. Whatever kind of vegetarian Hitler was, he was not the kind that Gandhi was.


56 posted on 05/26/2005 1:09:20 PM PDT by Feiny (TEAM AMERICA ate my baby!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I'm not sure where he hatched originally. He has an estate in NVa that's supposedly like a fortress and patrolled by armed guards. He's a freak show. Michael Jackson without the plastic surgery bill.
57 posted on 05/26/2005 1:10:31 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Mark Steyn)
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To: feinswinesuksass

And Adolf had a prickly personality, but he made his own uniforms and the SS really liked him . . . he once chastised a dinner companion enjoying a beef soup for eating 'scheiss-soup'.
But it's a good thing that this vegetarian, animal loving monster chased off German and Hungarian jewish physicists to the Greatest Country on Earth, or we might have had an unresolvable problem with these mid-20th century German leftists.


58 posted on 05/26/2005 1:17:37 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: tumblindice

Hugo Boss was the designer of the uniforms.....


59 posted on 05/26/2005 1:22:07 PM PDT by Feiny (TEAM AMERICA ate my baby!)
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To: .cnI redruM

"I'm not sure where he hatched originally."

Born in NH, educated in Boston (good, they can't hang him around our neck, at least).


60 posted on 05/26/2005 1:28:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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