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Shock Mom and Dad: Become a Neo-Nazi (Right Wing Extremism in Germany)
Der Spiegel ^ | May 23, 2005 | Dominik Cziesche and 5 Co-Authors

Posted on 05/26/2005 12:16:26 PM PDT by quidnunc

German young people, faced with liberal parents who are tolerant about sex, drugs and rock and roll, are increasingly rebelling by turning to right-wing extremism. Neo-nazi fashion, music and ideology have become an ever important part of German youth culture.

Where did this "German" image come from? It's hard to say who the first person was to show up to a party in a Lonsdale shirt, curse "the Russians" or download the latest CDs by Bremen's Germanic renegade heavy metal band Kategorie C.

But Christian, Stefan and Andy don't really care how it all started. They see just themselves as good kids, living in decent families in a small city west of Munich. They're in their late teens, about to graduate from high school. And they say that there are too many foreigners "in our country." They say that "they" should leave, and that then things would be sure to get better.

They believe that if foreigners left there would be more jobs and fewer unemployed Turks getting money from the government. There would be no Albanian drug dealers on the streets and no macho Islamic guys hitting on their girlfriends. They would also no longer run the risk of being beaten up by large groups of "Russians" on a Friday night in front of their favorite bar. They say it is always "the Russians" who attack first.

Christian, Stefan and Andy aren't the fighting types. They repeat stupid xenophobic language, but aren't just dim-witted thugs. They say that they would never vote for the NPD — or not yet at any rate. They say they're afraid. Afraid of violent foreigners in their own home town. So afraid, in fact, that they wouldn't even give us their real first names.

To avoid getting bloody noses, they've discovered a detour through back yards when they go out on a Friday night. Ever since the neighborhood near the train station became a ghetto for immigrants, drunk young Russian-born Germans (the descendants of Germans who were deported to the Soviet Union after World War II) have been cruising the city's downtown streets and alleys, looking for a fight. First, says Andy, they surround their victim, then start pushing him around, and finally descend on him with their fists. Since then the three teenagers, all tall and athletic, have been avoiding the gas station and the athletic club's parking lot, places where the Russians hang out.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany
KEYWORDS: eurabia; leftistgarbage; neonazi; socialism
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1 posted on 05/26/2005 12:16:26 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

Like that kid in Eurotrip, just pencil in a 'stache, goosestep around the house and watch the fun begin.


2 posted on 05/26/2005 12:18:13 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: quidnunc

Uh, shouldn't that be "Left" Wing Extremism in Germany?


3 posted on 05/26/2005 12:20:43 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: quidnunc

I think I recently received one or two (or 500) e-mails about this same subject.


4 posted on 05/26/2005 12:21:34 PM PDT by Freemyland
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To: quidnunc
You know, the saddest thing about europe isn't that they can't reproduce fast enough to survive, or that they've turned their back on God assuring a pointless life and eternal damnation, or even that they're becoming a muslim caliphate.  It's that they're so universally left wing that "right wing" simply means a nationalist bent to socialism.  Nothing even remotely approaching American Conservatism exists in that God forsaken land.
 
Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

5 posted on 05/26/2005 12:21:45 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Most Nazi idiots can't tell the difference.


6 posted on 05/26/2005 12:21:53 PM PDT by tiamat (Can't sleep...clowns will get me..can't sleep...clowns will get me...can't sleep....clowns will get)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Socialism has killed Europe.


7 posted on 05/26/2005 12:21:55 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: quidnunc
…are increasingly rebelling by turning to right-wing extremism. Neo-nazi fashion,

I never spent a lot of time or energy familiarizing myself with Germans. At any rate, I was always under the impression that “nazi” was an abbreviated form – or acronym or something – but it had to do with national SOCIALISTS.

That’s what I recall anyway. If it is the case, you’ll have hell trying to reconcile “socialist” with “right-wing” unless you’ve goofy like those guys that made the old Chinese maps that were always oriented with north pointing down.

8 posted on 05/26/2005 12:22:11 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: quidnunc
You'd think being in THE FREAKIN' HOME OF NAZIISM they'd know that "National Socialism" is a LEFT WING concept.
9 posted on 05/26/2005 12:22:34 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Uh, shouldn't that be "Left" Wing Extremism in Germany?

That is what I thought. It is not the first time I have heard Nazi being used in conjunction with Right Wing, mostly by the media. In their eyes, everything evil is right wing.

10 posted on 05/26/2005 12:25:10 PM PDT by farmfriend (Down with the sickness -Disturbed)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Nothing even remotely approaching American Conservatism exists in that God forsaken land.

There are small groups of Evangelical Free Churches and traditional Catholics who are not allergic to capitalism but are allergic to collectivism.

The CSU of Bavaria is closer to the GOP than any other party on the Continent.

12 posted on 05/26/2005 12:25:39 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: quidnunc
At this point, if you're a German who hasn't eaten a homosexual lover, you're in the more normal half of the population.

Germans love Hasslehoff (with a nice Reisling.)

13 posted on 05/26/2005 12:26:13 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: All

Actually most of what these kids are supposedly saying is true. Germany DOES have tons of "immigrants" who create problems for them and many of them live on the dole and are violent. So what's wrong with the young people noting that and wanting it to change? What's wrong with people wanting to have their own country to themselves?


14 posted on 05/26/2005 12:26:17 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: Lee'sGhost

I was just asking myself the same question.


15 posted on 05/26/2005 12:26:30 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Owl_Eagle
"they've turned their back on God"

Sadly ironic since, correct me if I'm wrong, that is the birth place (Germany) of Martin Luther.
16 posted on 05/26/2005 12:27:02 PM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: Swing and A Drive

Welcome to FR.


17 posted on 05/26/2005 12:27:13 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: infidel29

...but in school, it's taught that Naziism is "RIGHT-wing extremism"...so the truth is irrelevant. Point out the socialism aspect and you're just gonna get a bad grade.


18 posted on 05/26/2005 12:28:24 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: infidel29

""National Socialism" is a LEFT WING concept."

It's slightly to the right of Stalinist era communism, which is the original source of the description. That both are far to the left is not deemed worthy of noting. Particularly in the US, where it is a nonsensical, but very useful, tool in silencing conservative thought and speech.


19 posted on 05/26/2005 12:31:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

It comes from the aftermath of WWII when the NYSlimes and the other major media of the time fell in love with communism. They couldn't have the American people thinking that the beloved communists were a more extreme version of the evil we had just defeated. So they labeled socialists (Nazis and Fascists) as right wing to explain the fact that the Soviets had fought on our side. It also falsely put the US to the left of center since we as a people were opposed to the Nazis.


20 posted on 05/26/2005 12:33:41 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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