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Student says T-shirt slogans got her a day's suspension
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Posted on 05/26/2005 10:22:33 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: Sam's Army
If you like awesome shirts...you have to check out this site....it has shirts for both sides... http://www.boffensive.com/offensive_tshirts/freedom.htm http://www.boffensive.com/offensive_tshirts/religion.htm I just ordered this one the other night...
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:11:06 PM PDT
by
My Favorite Headache
( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
To: L98Fiero
"18-year-old junior = flunked somewhere along the line down here, possibly twice, depending on birthdate." That is EXACTLY what I am thinking... There are LOTS of kids who turn 18 early in their senior year or even during the summer... But if you are 18 in your junior year...well...I'm thinking that you started REALLY late or were held back along the way (for whatever reason)...
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:11:16 PM PDT
by
M0sby
(((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
To: af_vet_1981
Neither you nor Clinton were in a high school where the court has ruled that the education mission overrides most everything else.
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:12:57 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: mbraynard
If the kid was wearing an anti bush shirt, youd all be patting the guy back.
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:13:06 PM PDT
by
beansox
To: aQ_code_initiate
Now, why did you go make this political? Why do you assume that because I am on the side of authority and discipline that I'm a Clintonista?Bill Clinton represented both authority and discipline when he told Juanita to put some ice on it.
The idea is actually oxymoronic. (BTW, per Miss Smith's example, I've just launched two coded insults at you.) Okay, since you want to splash around in the political pond, let's test your principles. What if Michael Scheuer started wearing a t-shirt around the CIA calling Tenet a political puppet?
If you are in leadership and have committed a crime that affects your ability to lead, you should step down.
Or what if a recruit at basic training decides his drill sergeant is an SOB and scrawls something to that effect on his shirt when he falls in for PT? How tolerant would you be of that? Or would you be part of the chorus proclaiming how richly they deserved what they got?
Public schools are not (yet) a government military environment but any DI who commits certain crimes should be disqualified from leadership.
To: xzins
Possibly, but this late in the school year, being 18 and a junior is not that rare.
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:15:55 PM PDT
by
sharktrager
(The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
To: xzins
Rural Georgia courts aren't noted for their willingness to undermine authority, and the principal is correct when he says that there is a lot of precedent for his actions. I say Smith will lose.
To: Puddleglum
it can't help but be better than the version BBC did a number of years ago.
i almost slapped the couple sitting next to me when i saw the preview, i knew it right away but the grrl said something like "oooh! another harry potter movie" then after the title was shown her boyfriend said something to the extent of "oh, there's like 4 books in the series, its just a rip off of LotR"
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:17:07 PM PDT
by
absolootezer0
("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
To: xzins
Neither you nor Clinton were in a high school where the court has ruled that the education mission overrides most everything else. Again, whether the principal committed assault, rape, or DUI and running a stop sign, he should resign or be removed from any leadership position. Yes, I know the Clinton Fans have a different standard for leaders ...
To: af_vet_1981
Drop Clinton and quit your commie-baiting. I didn't vote for him and think he's a slimeball.
Oh, so you're advocating that the principal lose his job. Okay, that I can understand, although I disagree with your opinion, because the DUI hasn't affected his ability to do his job - and military leadership isn't in his job description. Miss Smith is merely a gadfly.
To: freepatriot32
It seems to me that the principle running the school is a little angry at this student because she is only reminding the student body what a hypocrite he really is.
I guess he just can't take the heat. He should resign for the good of the school.
To: aQ_code_initiate
Drop Clinton and quit your commie-baiting. I didn't vote for him and think he's a slimeball. Clinton and his fans made the case that his behavior did not affect his ability to do his job and you seem to imply that only military leadership might have made that premise invalid.
Oh, so you're advocating that the principal lose his job.
I wrote as much.
Okay, that I can understand, although I disagree with your opinion, because the DUI hasn't affected his ability to do his job - and military leadership isn't in his job description. Miss Smith is merely a gadfly.
Linda Tripp was such a gadfly ...
To: L98Fiero
Well put. There is no doubt in my mind the immature 18-year-old was taking a direct shot at the principal. The sad thing is that most posters here know that as well and won't admit it because they abhor authority and or public schools as much as this ignorant 18-year old junior does.
There's nothing wrong with defying authority when that authority is genuinely corrupt. In this case, the student was objecting to the immorality of having a criminal drunkard overseeing the education of several hundred children. I happen to agree with her position, and if the teachers unions and corrupt school boards managed to undermine basic morality and keep this dipsh*t in his job, then I'd say that a little civil disobedience is in order.
Our country wouldn't exist today if it weren't for citizens revolting against the tyrants and corrupt leaders imposed upon them.
To: Venerable Bede; JIM O
That's what I was wondering. I was 15 when I started my junior year.
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:46:00 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
To: xzins
The coincidence of the 2nd shirt's acronym spelling DUI, though, was a bit too cute.Which likely wouldn't have happened if the principal didn't go completely overboard in response to the first T-shirt. "Don't drink and drive" is a perfectly positive message. It's crazy that such a message should not be permitted because the he once had a DUI six years ago. I wouldn't go so far as to say (as other posters have) that illegal actions should unconditionally disqualify a principal, but if his actions make him this sensitive to messages that should be heard, then he really needs to find himself another job.
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:52:27 PM PDT
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: motzman
Obviously, the chickee-poo and her mommy have some kind of problem with the principal.
The principal is a criminal drunkard. They have a legitimate argument against his holding that job.
These kids are our future
Scary thought.
You find it scary that this girl had the fortitude to object to an obviously tyrannical convicted criminal running a public school? You find it scary that she objected to the corruption that allowed this creep to keep his job in the first place? You object to the fact that this girl seems to think that school leaders should act as ROLE MODELS for their students, and refrain from engaging in criminal acts? Sorry, but I most certainly do NOT share your objections.
Most kids, because of poor parenting, don't realize "respect" is something you earn, and it's a two-way street.
The principal threw his respectability out the window when he was convicted of committing a crime that he hypocritically lectured his own students against committing themselves. The girl has earned MY respect simply because she had the audacity to speak up against corruption and inept leadership when she saw it. If I wanted to live in a nation full of mindless bleating sheep who do whatever they're told, I'd move to Europe.
To: beansox
No, we'd similarly disagree with the principal and send him nasty emails. I think I'd rather deal with an anti-Bush HS student than some dope head HS student.
HOWEVER, it's not even an overtly political t-shirt. It's a "Don't drink and Drive" t-shirt.
To: SandyInSeattle
That's what happens when you start Kindergarten at age 6 instead of 5. Not necessarily caused by having to repeat a grade somwhere along the line.
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:53:50 PM PDT
by
HKMk23
(Ladies, "No" should not mean "No"; it should mean "Don't even THINK it or I'll for real KILL you!")
To: adam_az
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posted on
05/26/2005 12:56:49 PM PDT
by
HKMk23
(Ladies, "No" should not mean "No"; it should mean "Don't even THINK it or I'll for real KILL you!")
To: freepatriot32
These kids are our future, I think they should be treated with a little more respect....With all due respect to freedom of expression, your kids are not my future--I am my future. Your kid will get respect from me when he or she earns it.
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posted on
05/26/2005 1:05:28 PM PDT
by
randog
(What the....?!)
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