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Judge delays Limbaugh hearing: reschedules arguments for Tuesday
PalmBeachDailyNews ^ | Thursday, May 26, 2005 | Michele Dargan,

Posted on 05/26/2005 7:09:27 AM PDT by rface

Prosecutors will have to wait until at least next week before finding out which medical records they may use in pursuing their criminal investigation against Rush Limbaugh.

Circuit Judge Jeffrey Winikoff postponed hearing arguments Monday when he did not receive copies of two defense motions even though Limbaugh's attorney Roy Black filed the papers Friday. Winikoff attributed the delay to security procedures put in place after 9/11, requiring paperwork to go through the clerk's office instead of directly to the judge. The hearing is reset for Tuesday.

"I think that the court handled this quite properly wanting to read all the pleadings and get up to speed on what all the parties have said before making any kind of a ruling," Black said after Monday's hearing.

Prosecutors want to use the medical records in pursuing allegations that the Palm Beach resident illegally stocked up on prescription painkillers. Limbaugh's medical records were seized from four doctors by search warrants on Nov. 25 and Dec. 4, 2003. Winikoff initially granted prosecutors access to the records, but sealed them 24 hours later pending the outcome of the appeals. Limbaugh, 54, has maintained his innocence and has been fighting to keep his medical records private.

Assistant State Attorney James Martz filed a motion Thursday asking for Limbaugh's seized medical records after appellate rulings upheld the legality of the seizures.

In his response, Black asked for a hearing in front of Circuit Judge Thomas Barkdull III, the judge who signed the search warrants. Citing a 4th District Court of Appeal ruling, Black wants Barkdull to privately review the records and return all documents "outside the scope of the search warrants, medical records irrelevant to the investigation and medical records that are privileged and confidential." He also seeks a protective order preventing the state from disclosing any information in Limbaugh's medical records.

"I was confident that you could not seize someone's medical records by sending police officers into your doctors' offices and obviously the courts disagreed with me on that," Black said. "But we are not giving up this fight and we're going to try to limit the production to those things ordered by the court and the highly personal things that are in my client's medical files we are hoping to keep confidential.

"Rush is a person who is very strong and believes in enforcing his rights and wants to continue litigating this matter and, of course, I'm going to do so," Black said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: limbaugh; ratsht; rs; rush
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could it be that the courts and the prosecutor in FL are dragging this out as loooooong as possible?
1 posted on 05/26/2005 7:09:27 AM PDT by rface
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To: Born Conservative

Ping.


2 posted on 05/26/2005 7:12:22 AM PDT by b4its2late (It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.)
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To: rface
In his response, Black asked for a hearing in front of Circuit Judge Thomas Barkdull III, the judge who signed the search warrants. Citing a 4th District Court of Appeal ruling, Black wants Barkdull to privately review the records and return all documents "outside the scope of the search warrants, medical records irrelevant to the investigation and medical records that are privileged and confidential." He also seeks a protective order preventing the state from disclosing any information in Limbaugh's medical records.

I suggested on a thread a while ago that Black was doing a poor job handling this case insofar as he hasn't educated the public about a.) what's at stake and b.) Florida's medical records privacy laws.

Here it looks like he's capitulated... and has resigned himself to letting a judge weed through these... anybody see it otherwise?

3 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:43 AM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: rface
The courts in the Sheeples Republic of FloriDUH are very consistent. Think election of 2000 and the fact that the Florida Supreme Court was corrected by the US Supreme Court twice in a row for legislating from the bench.

Roy Black has his work cut out for him if he hopes to obtain anything resembling justice for Rush. When a Democratic prosecutor decided to make a show trail, the FloriDUH laws make it easy to so do.

The legal system here is a pool of never empty cess - and the "Brothers in the law" as they like to describe themselves, are ever diligent at keeping the 'DUH' factor in "FloriDUH" alive and growing.
4 posted on 05/26/2005 7:26:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru
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To: IncPen

that's the way it looks to me - maybe he has no choice in the matter


5 posted on 05/26/2005 7:36:50 AM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: IncPen

Black is a liberal lawyer. Maybe he set Rush up through his incompetence.


6 posted on 05/26/2005 7:40:01 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: Bommer

Roy Black, be he liberal or otherwise, is one of the finest lawyers you will ever see. I would want this guy in my corner anyday of the week.

Look, it doesn't matter what Rush's medical records say or don't say. What you are seeing here is an example of what happens when a prosecutor has an agenda. The prosecutor has alrealdy decided that Rush is guilty and will be charged and prosecuted for Dr. Shopping. Regardless of what the actual evidence shows, the prosecutor is merely going to fashion a case in order to get Rush, someone he has made public statements about not liking.

Oh, and for those who dislike Rush just keep this in mind, IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU. Thats right, anytime anyday the most trivial of things you do can be turned into a charge against you. From where you dump your grass clippings to how you park your car to where you buy your legal drugs. There is probably a law on the books somewhere and you are probably breaking it as we speak. So then, why aren't we all charged with something everyday, you may ask? Simply put, there are real criminals out there. But let what is happening to Rush be a lesson to you. Should you become an annoyance to someone in power, suddenly you could find yourself in a bit of trouble.


7 posted on 05/26/2005 8:05:28 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

8 posted on 05/26/2005 9:04:38 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: IncPen

At this point he doesn't have much choice. What exactly would you suggest he do different from here out?


9 posted on 05/26/2005 9:21:00 AM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L
At the very least this has been a train wreck in terms of PR.

Apparently Florida has legislation dealing specifically with patient medical records and their sanctity; Black shouldn't let a word pass his lips without working that fact into every sound bite.

And he should find a way to have Limbaugh address this on his show, even if it's a statement he reads every single day, on the air pointing out that fact

Also (if it were me) I'd begin a campaign of leaks meant to embarass Limbaugh with all manner of scurrilous things supposedly pulled from his medical records, so that when the actual records were released everyone would say, in true Clintonian Chorus, "See?! We told you it was nothing!!"

10 posted on 05/26/2005 10:35:57 AM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: IncPen

I was talking about your comment regarding the judge, not the PR aspect.


11 posted on 05/26/2005 10:56:57 AM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L

I'm not a lawyer, but the Judge could dismiss the case, based on the fact that Limbaugh's being singled out, could he not?


12 posted on 05/26/2005 11:41:07 AM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: IncPen

He's obviously not going to do that.


13 posted on 05/26/2005 1:20:23 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Bommer
Black is a liberal lawyer. Maybe he set Rush up through his incompetence

Yea right. Rush's judgement was probably clouded by a drug induced haze when he engaged Mr. Black.
/sarcasm

14 posted on 05/26/2005 6:08:24 PM PDT by Captiva (DVC)
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To: FlipWilson; ClintonBeGone

... and if you are going to do something illegal, don't be so stupid as to be quoted saying -

"I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. "

If you use those excuses on your doctors to obtain the drugs that you like, that can be considered fraud ... doctor-shopping


15 posted on 05/26/2005 7:38:32 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it dosn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: rface

"Black wants Barkdull to privately review the records and return all documents "outside the scope of the search warrants, medical records irrelevant to the investigation and medical records that are privileged and confidential."

LOL - Black still hasn't learned that medical records are NOT privileged and confidential when obtained by search warrant.


16 posted on 05/26/2005 7:44:10 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it dosn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: RS

Hey RS, still beating the "Rush must do time" drum I see.

Look, if you don't see this as selective prosecution, I can't change your mind. But honestly, how many people have problems with drugs of abuse? I am willing to bet quite a few thousand in Florida (that is probably a low estimate). How many of them lie, cheat, and do whatever it takes to satisify their addiction? I would bet almost all of them. Now, how many are charged with Doctor Shopping? Oh sure, you cited me two (2) people who have been charged. Lets assume that there are more out there, say 100. Even 100 out of the the thousand(s) that have problems with drugs of abuse is not a very good percentage. Moreover, how many of those people who are charged have 1) their medical records seized, or are 2)prosecuted through to trial or 3)go to jail or 4)have a prosecutor make public statements at partisan rallies to the effect: "Don't worry about Limbaugh, we're going to get him!!" How many?

I am not saying that Rush should walk away as if nothing happened. But, it does bother me when DA's abuse their power to push a personal or political agenda. (See DeLay, Tom). This is selective and malicious prosecution plain and simple. It is designed to do one thing and one thing only, SILENCE RUSH. As I said above, it could happen to you, pray it doesn't.


17 posted on 05/27/2005 6:33:06 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: RS

A search warrant must be specific and cite the exact information/articles that are sought. Otherwise, I could get a search warrant today for your house and basically impound everything in it. Black is doing what a good lawyer should. He is ensuring that only those articles sought in the warrant are retained and reviewed by the prosecution.


18 posted on 05/27/2005 6:35:29 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: RS

Well, I want you to turn over all your medical records to the police, so they can see if you've violated any crime.

Then, you can turn over all your bank statements to the IRS, so they can see if you've deposited any "un-taxed" income.


19 posted on 05/27/2005 6:38:18 AM PDT by Guillermo (Bush is no conservative. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that he is)
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To: FlipWilson

"But honestly, how many people have problems with drugs of abuse?"

This case is not about the abuse of drugs, once he obtained them illegally it dosent matter if he ate them, sold them, or flushed them.

"Moreover, how many of those people who are charged have 1) their medical records seized, or are 2)prosecuted through to trial or 3)go to jail ..."

Most of them acknowledge that they have done something wrong and apply for intervention - Rush refuses to acknowledge he has broken the law ( or perhaps he feels it should simply not apply to him )


"...or 4)have a prosecutor make public statements at partisan rallies to the effect: "Don't worry about Limbaugh, we're going to get him!!" "

When you have to make things up your argument is lost...


20 posted on 05/27/2005 7:20:42 AM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it dosn't mean he's not guilty.)
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