Shrewsbury dad on sex survey: They asked you if you did what?!

Boston Herald.com ^ | May 26, 2005 | O’Ryan Johnson

[fortunecookie]

It's nice to see a parent object. Was he the only one who noticed and objected? Little wonder, then, that such a 'questionnaire' would be necessary...

[Air Conditioned Gypsy]

Let's make the teachers take the same test.

[Ender Wiggin]

http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=3396124&nav=0RYbaKez

Related story, I wonder if there is a link between the two?

[Disambiguator]

I probably would have written something rude (the truth) that would have gotten me in trouble with the truancy laws, which is why it's a good thing that we're homeschooling our kids.

[beezdotcom]

hearing that, I instructed all my kids to participate in the surveys if they desired, with the intent of completely skewing the results. If they asked how many sexual partners they had had, put down 4000! If they asked how many times they had ever considered suicide, put down 10,000!

Upon which, the administrators sought (and received) more federal funding, to "better educate" these "troubled youth" upon how to SAFELY engage in sex with 4000 partners, and to provide throngs of "grief counselors" in case the suicide attempts succeed.

So, it's all YOUR fault. Thanks. ;-)

[iconoclast]

successful individuals who can interact with lots of different people in our communities.

I thought that was precisely what I was suggesting that Mom and/or Dad do. ;o)

[iconoclast]

When people say "You should send them to public school to be a light to the world" or things of that nature, that is what I feel they are asking me to do, to throw my kids into a pit so that we can win the war.

And as the pit grows wider and deeper, and we retreat further into our little caves of fear and rejection are we really serving Christ IN the world while not becoming OF it?

We may yet wind up back in the catacombs, but need we rush there?

[SuziQ]

Oh we do it WITH our kids. We provide them with opportunities to interact with all kinds of people. If they were stuck in a classroom all day, they'd interact with only those adults who have some sort of official authority over their every action. In the community, they can talk and have dealings with adults on a less 'me vs them' footing. It also means that they are less under the influence of their 'peers', which means less apt to be goaded into actions into which they might otherwise not consider engaging.

[SuziQ]

And as the pit grows wider and deeper, and we retreat further into our little caves of fear and rejection are we really serving Christ IN the world while not becoming OF it?

Not having our kids in school doesn't mean we're retreating into 'caves of fear and rejection'. On the contrary, our kids are out in the world, under our supervision, of course, but they are seeing the world as it is, not filtered through the prism of the public school system. Many of us are involved in community service with our kids in many ways, again, not as part of packs of kids from the school, but as families or groups of families who have chosen to do this out of love, not because of some school requirement. I believe this is more 'bringing Christ to the world' than beating our heads up against the brick wall of teacher unions that only care about saving jobs for their teachers and pushing their favorite liberal agenda items onto the kids in schools.

[Eagle Eye]

For the way they tore the country up in the 60's and 70's...for being anti American hypocrites...for being selfish beyond imagination...hippies, feminists, envirowhackos, modern socialists...

Or should I be thankful that this generation has allowed us middle aged folks the freedom to still wear blue jeans and sneakers?

[Cyber Ninja]

I can’t argue with your reasons. I do, however, think
that more of the bad boomers are in the older half of
the generation; those over 53. I think the younger half
(those under 53) don’t have as many bad apples in their
ranks. The hippy era was basically over by 1973.

[Eagle Eye]

I think you'd better check your dates.

[gridlock]

My Mom would always write on the note "My son was not in school because I kept him home". Never had any problem with the school over that one. I think they had more sense than to tangle with Mom. I know I did.

[conservonator]

How come schools can't seem to come up with the money to fully implement "no child left behind" but seem to have endless funds to promote, er, educate students on all types of sex?

[little jeremiah]

Your comments need repeating:

Because you can sell more products to tiny adults than you can to kids. Children have been turned into our smallest and most easily-manipulated consumers. I firmly believe they are being made into "activated appetites," little empty holes to be poured full of products and ideologies and short-term increases in sales numbers and nihilists by the time they're 15. And once they're really screwed up, they can be sold the antidote, and justify a shrink or socialist's existence.

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes Ping.

And where's the freeper chorus: "But they don't do this at MY kids' school!". Well, if they don't yet, they will, and your school probably has a target painted on it.

Naturally 11 and 12 year old girls are giving oral sex. I mean, didn't we do that kind of stuff at that age???? /sarc. After all, with books like the one I pinged you to (there were about 3 more articles about it), if the girls don't learn in sex ed, they'll learn at the library.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.

Note: Not only should children be homeschooled or sent to a VERY carefully vetted private school, they shouldn't even hang out with kids who go to public screwel.

[little jeremiah]

Your comments are insightful and true.

[halieus]

Homeschool!!! No sex surveys in our house. :>))

ditto.

[halieus]

Because you can sell more products to tiny adults than you can to kids. Children have been turned into our smallest and most easily-manipulated consumers. I firmly believe they are being made into "activated appetites," little empty holes to be poured full of products and ideologies and short-term increases in sales numbers and nihilists by the time they're 15. And once they're really screwed up, they can be sold the antidote, and justify a shrink or socialist's existence.

I think you're spot-on. I see it manifested quite plainly in my 6 year old nephew. Whether he's playing games at cheetos.com, saving his allowance for an aggressively marketed toy, ruminating on how much money the tooth fairy will leave, sending gift requests to Santa in May... he's already a cog in the marketing machine.

Of course, this is because his parents have allowed it, even encouraged it. It is sad to see such incredibly self-centered materialism in a little boy. Not only sad, but it has permanent, life-long consequences which his parents do not seem to have considered.

[halieus]

Put up with this or give up the free babysitting. Hmmm... which will the parents choose?

Man, that's just sad. The fact is, we live in a culture that doesn't value children. People are so consumed with feeding their own desires that children are either an extension of that selfishness or an obstacle to it.