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Why people are getting upset with illegal immigrants
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Posted on 05/26/2005 5:19:15 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Why people are getting upset with illegal immigrants

Jill Bureau, MerrimackPublished: Thursday, May. 26, 2005

I have been reading all the letters about illegal immigration and feel the need to give my opinion as a legal immigrant.

People do not seem to be getting the point of what the New Ipswich and Hudson police chiefs are trying to do. They are not being racist or penalizing people with an accent, different color or people trying to work.

They are trying to uphold the law because the government doesn’t seem to be able or willing to do so.

My husband and I are both immigrants with accents, we came here for a better life and opportunity. We were not “born into one of the richest countries in the world.”

What we didn’t do is come illegally. People are upset by those that come here illegally.

We did our paper work, we had to have a job to come to and when we got here we started paying Social Security, taxes and everything else a law-abiding citizen pays.

My husband served eight years in the U.S. Air Force and two in the reserves.

There is nothing wrong with immigrants; this country was founded and thrived on such. What has everybody upset is why should people just step across the border from any country via plane, boat or walking and just get benefits straight away?

Our son was born here with disabilities and he is on a waiting list for services, I know for a fact that children of illegals are getting services before him. Before I get told that I don’t like children, that is not the point, legal immigrants should come first.

My husband took two jobs and went to school to pay our medical bills for our son, and to get ahead. One person comes here, has a baby, the baby is legal so now the whole family is, and all get benefits of some sort.

The United States should do what a judge in Ireland did. He said the baby could stay or go home with the parents, but the parents were being deported, they were illegal.

I think America has proved to the world it has a big heart, but when its legal citizens are going without, something has to change. The laws need to be tightened, not slackened.


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To: Happy2BMe
Before I get told that I don’t like children, that is not the point, legal immigrants should come first.

Exactly right. Charity begins at home. If we don't take care of our own children, what kind of parents are we?

21 posted on 05/26/2005 9:11:19 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: NCLaw441
We need to require some level of work, and yes, shame, for reliance upon others by those who are able-bodied yet willing to take from the producers here.<<<

Yes! I've often said that those on welfare could and should contribute to their own welfare.

Sorting recyclables, which is often too expensive and time consuming for small cities to practice, could be done by those collecting welfare. It would improve the environment and provide a bit of humility for those who currently feel it is their right to be supported by society

Welfare recipients should be those "doing the jobs 'some' Americans don't want to do. Even the single mothers on welfare and food stamps could work licking envelopes for Uncle Sam. WORKFARE would stop illegals in their tracks.
22 posted on 05/26/2005 9:28:51 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Happy2BMe

"Why people are getting upset with illegal immigrants"

No need for a whole essay, the title cites the reason in the word just before the last one.


23 posted on 05/26/2005 9:32:57 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Happy2BMe
The United States should do what a judge in Ireland did. He said the baby could stay or go home with the parents, but the parents were being deported, they were illegal.

IIRC Ireland recently amended it's constitution to eliminate anchor babies. If you are illegal or seeking asylum your baby born on Irish soil is not automatically Irish citizen. We desperately need the same law or amendment.

24 posted on 05/26/2005 10:14:35 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


25 posted on 05/26/2005 11:46:05 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe
People are upset by those that come here illegally.

I'm upset by the volume and the lack of diversity in immigration, legal or illegal. Too many people from one country or one culture makes it too difficult for them to assimilate and if they're from a 3rd world country their economic impact will be negative. It doesn't matter if they come through legal or illegal channels.

26 posted on 05/26/2005 12:01:31 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: TexasKamaAina
if they're from a 3rd world country their economic impact will be negative.

So all of those Colombian and Venezuelans bankers (I know more than a few), Indian doctors, Korean businessmen and Pakistani physicist will be more of a drain than the Russians who I would always see using their food stamp card at the supermarkets in Brooklyn?

Actually, legal immigration is handled via a national origin lottery, so it shifts from year to year. Its ILLEGAL immigration that makes total immigration waves disproportionately from Mexico.

27 posted on 05/26/2005 12:07:47 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: Happy2BMe

Rush had an interview with Newt Gingrich today, and among the things they discussed was immigration. The first sensible words about that issue! Newt wants all borders secured in a professional, sensible manner. Porter Goss, head of the CIA told congress recently that he expected terrorists to drive across the border with a nuke in the truck/car. So in the aftermath of 9/11, leaving our borders, including sea coasts unsecured is insane, and the chickens will come home to roost mighty fast if a large city gets nuked here and it's proven the terrorist drove in from Mexico with a nuke in the trunk of his SUV. As for illegals already here, Newt says, send them home to reapply legally. They get a green card with a thumb print so we can track them and they pay taxes. If they break the law, they're deported post haste, no shilly shallying. Sounds reasonable to me. Let's hope they're listening in Wash.


28 posted on 05/26/2005 12:11:38 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Happy2BMe
We did our paper work, we had to have a job to come to and when we got here we started paying Social Security, taxes and everything else a law-abiding citizen pays.

I put the salient part in bold. As I've said elsewhere, one problem with illegals is that they give employers an incentive to keep their salaries off the books. I mean, what tax ID or social security # do you put on the W-2 or 1099 for an illegal? And when salaries aren't reported, taxes aren't paid - either by the employer or employee. So guess who ends up footing the bill for the lost tax revenue? Why, the poor sap who actually obeys the law - the middle class.

29 posted on 05/26/2005 12:17:35 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Happy2BMe
It doesn't take a Doctorate degree in sociology to understand what the illegal alien invasion will eventually do to America.

A doctorate in sociology hardly makes anyone particularly astute. Sociology is a pseudoscience. Most obtaining a doctorate in this area are merely seeking a sinecure.
30 posted on 05/26/2005 12:23:49 PM PDT by DOGEY
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To: DOGEY

What degree do you recommend for studying an invasion?


31 posted on 05/26/2005 2:17:50 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

How about deducting oh say one hundred thousand dollars of aid for every illegal from that country that
is caught here. I'll bet that would slow it down!


32 posted on 05/26/2005 5:04:04 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Happy2BMe
Our son was born here with disabilities and he is on a waiting list for services, I know for a fact that children of illegals are getting services before him....My husband took two jobs and went to school to pay our medical bills for our son, and to get ahead. One person comes here, has a baby, the baby is legal so now the whole family is, and all get benefits of some sort.

The United States should do what a judge in Ireland did. He said the baby could stay or go home with the parents, but the parents were being deported, they were illegal.

As I read this post, the TV news is reporting that 14% of the nation's emergency rooms have closed during the past decade due to the uninsured. They report a full 30% nationwide go to emergency rooms for non-emergency conditions.

As regards anchor babies, it seems to me that the judgement most posted as grounds for declaring children of illegals as "citizens" was one about their right to education. Is it not also true that American citizen parents are responsible for their offspring until their 18th birthday? Deport the illegals and their children. At 18, these same children, if they're so damn interested in an American education can pay international student tuition.

That was the only thing the Irish judge had wrong ... the children are the charge of the parents and, as such, return with them ... PERIOD!

33 posted on 05/26/2005 7:13:30 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: Puddleglum
Reports are that over $420 BILLION in earned income taxes went unreported last year due to employers hiring illegal aliens under the table.

That is a HULLUVALOT of money that went into the UNDERGROUND ECONOMY.

34 posted on 05/26/2005 7:14:11 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: dennisw

Forgot to add you to the "to."


35 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:15 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman; Puddleglum; Boazo; DOGEY; dennisw
America's Anchor Baby Syndrome

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans

36 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:29 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I think I've got this thing analyzed. What we have here is a perfect storm of an offensive agains America.

It's a three pronged attack. The Leninist Liberals in the media, education, and government hold us down. The terrorists harry us on our flanks. And the illegals come straight up the gut from the south and we can't do a damn thing about it.

I think we're handling the terrorists pretty well, except that they can use the same conduit as the mexicans. But sucking them into Iraq and Afghanistan and killing them has been pretty effective I think.

We have to shut down the media and do something about the quislings in the government. I don't know what or how. But the first amendment doesn't give you freedom to relentlessly attack the government.

And securing the border becomes more critical by the day. I don't know why Bush refuses, but we have to get it done whether he likes it or not. I think the vox pop is becoming a tsunami of rage against those who refuse to protect the country, so there may be some hope there.

Three lines of attack. We're on the defensive. We have to find a way to get on the offensive.


37 posted on 05/26/2005 7:29:22 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: Happy2BMe
Thanks for posting these links! I've bookmarked them!

I am familiar with the so called "issues" about the 14th Amendment and don't think you need to have a J.D. to understand the limitations the authors had in place.

How many folks do you think have read it? Not the Constitution ... the 14th Amendment. Give this passage to most any junior high school Civics class (that was my experience), and ask about the intent ... how's about on a final.

The symptoms we rant about daily on these threads mostly have to do with affects on infrastructure and should be of concern to all citizens. It is interesting to note when these "other" voices are heard they normally use the word "residents'" needs and "rights."

I've NEVER liked that ol' bull "as California goes, so goes the nation," but they'd better WAKE UP!

38 posted on 05/26/2005 7:53:35 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: Happy2BMe

The degree that recommends that we STOP paying for it!


39 posted on 05/26/2005 8:46:42 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman
"The symptoms we rant about daily on these threads mostly have to do with affects on infrastructure and should be of concern to all citizens. It is interesting to note when these "other" voices are heard they normally use the word "residents'" needs and "rights."

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Most are aware but afraid or ignorant of how to deal with it.

That is all subject to change. Give it a year or two until it really comes to a head all across the nation. That's the way it is headed.

40 posted on 05/26/2005 9:54:48 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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