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CA: Immigration event turns hostile (Minuteman)
The Orange County Register ^ | May 25, 2005 | Martin Wisckol

Posted on 05/26/2005 3:01:03 AM PDT by calcowgirl

GARDEN GROVE — An event honoring an anti-illegal immigrant leader tonight was marred by altercations between anti-immigration activists and protesters, resulting in an arrest when two demonstrators were hit by a slow-moving van.

The driver was Hal Netkin of Van Nuys, said Barbara Coe, chairwoman of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.

Protesters were blocking a driveway when Netkin tried to drive through and knocked two demonstrators to the ground, Deputy Police Chief K.J. Raney said.

Netkin was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. At least one of the protesters was hospitalized.

"Knowing (Netkin), he panicked," Coe said.

Billy Hall, a member of Coe’s group, said shortly afterward that his car window was broken by a protester. Hall said he filed a police report.

The event sponsored by Coe’s group honored Aliso Viejo resident Jim Gilchrist. Gilchrist’s Minuteman Project last month attracted nearly 900 people to patrol a stretch of Arizona border in an effort to stop entry by illegal immigrants. The effort was praised by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger but condemned by President George W. Bush, who called the volunteers "vigilantes."

"I’m damned proud to be a vigilante," Gilchrist told the 150 people assembled at the Garden Grove Women’s Club. "How about you?"

He received a rousing ovation. He also said that deporting the millions of people in the country illegally would lower home prices, reduce traffic congestion and lower taxes.

Nearly 100 protesters picketed and chanted on the sidewalk. One sign read, "Beat Back the Racist Attack."

"Their racist acts are being masked by patriotism," said Obed Sanchez of Garden Grove. "To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water. Even President Bush recognizes that."

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; gardengrove; illegals; immigrantlist; jimgilchrist; minuteman; minutemanproject; mmp
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To: potlatch; devolve; HiJinx; B4Ranch; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; ...
Did you guys catch this on Lou Dobbs tonight!?

The illegal aliens were out in (violent) force chanting "La Raza, La Raza, La Raza - meaning "The Race."

This is going to be a loooong hot summer. The potential is 100% there for this uprising to make the Watts Riots look like a nursery day care center.

And it won't be confined to California. The more the illegal aliens become anxious that their political platform is not going to hold water, the more they will riot for equal rights. Wait and see.

101 posted on 05/26/2005 9:59:47 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

No I didn't see it but things are getting more serious. I'm glad I don't live in Southern California though!

LOL, we are heading to the border, and crossing it, this weekend!!


102 posted on 05/26/2005 10:06:57 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Happy2BMe; potlatch



Lock & Load......

If they steal from American citizens - their vehicles, property, assets are fair game




103 posted on 05/26/2005 10:11:04 PM PDT by devolve
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To: janetgreen

Thanks janetgreen. I'm doing it right now.


104 posted on 05/26/2005 10:13:44 PM PDT by abigail2 ('The difficulty of the task is no excuse for avoiding it.' George Bush Inaugural Speech '05)
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To: Happy2BMe

I suppose the increasing violence on the side of the illegals is to be expected. Although I was very glad that the first Minuteman Project went through without a problem. Proves it can be done and who is causing the problems. I'm a little nervous about taking my 14 year old with me to San Diego in June, since I don't trust the other side.

I'm glad to hear J. Gilchrist say he's glad to be a vigilante - turn the President's words against him!


105 posted on 05/26/2005 10:16:51 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: Serenissima Venezia; yall

BTTT for more coverage.


106 posted on 05/26/2005 10:23:34 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

The pro illegal immigration lot are so peaceful, aren't they?


107 posted on 05/26/2005 10:24:56 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schindler was murdered - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: devolve
Been locked and loaded for at least thirty years now . .

:~)

108 posted on 05/26/2005 10:28:21 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
THANKS FOR     THE PING!

109 posted on 05/26/2005 10:29:27 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: devolve

Sounds like Arnold got into more than he ever expected when he became Governor!!


110 posted on 05/26/2005 10:31:41 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Serenissima Venezia; devolve; potlatch
Actually, I am aware of at least one other instance where illegal aliens violently reacted to anti-immigration protesting on public property. It was not in California, but has occurred within the past two weeks.

Violence worked for Blacks during the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's race riots.

This will be a different playing field. Entirely different.

Blacks back then were LEGAL CITIZENS. These illegal aliens are not - and they are FLAUNTING IT - daring our government to do something on large scale.

111 posted on 05/26/2005 10:32:03 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

112 posted on 05/26/2005 10:47:37 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Blacks back then were LEGAL CITIZENS. These illegal aliens are not - and they are FLAUNTING IT - daring our government to do something on large scale.

So, you think this will backfire on the illegals? I sure hope so! The way our government has ignored the situation, I am losing hope...
113 posted on 05/27/2005 7:15:14 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: calcowgirl
I've read some of the statements of the new L.A. mayor.

How disturbing!

114 posted on 05/27/2005 7:16:38 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Wormwood
Someone please tell Bush that we're drowning already.

If you are like me and get all kinds of solicitation for money from the RNC and other conservative groups, just send back a big "NO" on the donation stub and a big "Secure Our Border!" on the letter and mail it back in their prepaid envelope.

115 posted on 05/27/2005 7:20:14 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun; calcowgirl; Travis McGee; potlatch; Gipper08; Reaganwuzthebest; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ...
"I've read some of the statements of the new L.A. mayor. How disturbing."

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"While I am saying this half serious and half joking, I think we are practicing la reconquista in California."
~ Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, Feb 2002.

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this."
~ Ernesto Zedillo, Former President of Mexico, speaking in Chicago, July 23, 1997.

"Mexico extends beyond its borders."
~ Vicente Fox, Current President of Mexico, speaking to a gathering in Milwaukee in July of 2001

"California is going to be a Hispanic State and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."
~ Mario Obledo, President of the Californian Coalition of Hispanic Organisations, June 1998

"Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes..." "To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' "
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are sh!tting in their pants with fear. I love it.... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California."
~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party in front of 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on January 14, 1995.

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos... non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"
~ Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
~ Augustin Cebeda, of the 'Brown Berets', a militant Aztlan group at a violent rally in Los Angeles on July 4, 2000.

"Fair housing agencies report a surge in discrimination by immigrant landlords from many nations who refuse to rent outside their ethnic group."
~ Reported in Los Angeles Times, Nov. 21 2001.

"In an extraordinary political move, President Vicente Fox has announced the formation of a cabinet level agency to govern, protect and provide services to over 20 million Mexicans now living in Aztlan, a territory encompassing most of the southwest part of the USA. President Fox declared yesterday that he will personally lead the new agency he named "Consejo Nacional para las Comunidades Mexicanas en el Exterior" (National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad). The "Council" will consist of the president, most of the cabinet secretaries and a, as of yet unnamed, representative from Aztlan. This is a bold move that essentially extends the arm of the Mexican government into the territories it previously lost during the Mexican-American War of 1848."
~ Reported in "La Voz de Aztlan", August 7, 2002.


"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
~Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985


116 posted on 05/27/2005 8:05:45 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Pro-Bush

#116


117 posted on 05/27/2005 8:06:19 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Regulator

After I gave it some thought, I DO recall the lower (fictitious) 2 to 3 million, but is was quoted by some Mexican official, and not that long ago.


118 posted on 05/27/2005 9:06:06 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: calcowgirl
Obed Sanchez needs to use his money to provide the medical, educational and prison expenses his hombres are costing American taxpayers. Criminals by any other name are still criminals. Respect for American law is essential to those within our borders. A criminal act is required to enter the border illegally, and it morally wrong for a criminal trespasser to demand benefits American taxpayers budget for Americans.

Send Obed Sanchez the bills; that will shut him up.

119 posted on 05/27/2005 11:22:01 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos.)
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To: dennisw
Hal is an old retired fellow. He could get a heart attack from such violent harassment by the Mexican protesters.

These thugs apparently like picking on old people. There was an incident back in '04, IIRC, where an elderly woman was shouted down by some of these "protesters". They were wearing bandanas over their faces, and the old woman pulled the bandana down on one of them, exposing the scumbag's face.

As I recall, the woman was arrested, charged with simple battery or some such B.S. Outrageous.

120 posted on 05/27/2005 11:44:05 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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