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To: GaryL

Posted by Lancey Howard to HitmanNY
On News/Activism 05/24/2005 3:35:26 AM EDT · 40 of 72

The Republicans MAY actually be in a BETTER position now than they were a day ago.

It looks to me like the Republicans have come out on top in the public relations department by shedding the image of frenzied "extremists" who want to nuke the Senate, etc. As far as I can tell, the Democrats gained nothing from a public relations standpoint. But there may be an even more important upside for the Republicans:

I am beginning to wonder if the rats got themselves caught in a very clever trap. If the rats arbitrarily claim "extraordinary circumstances" against a qualified nominee simply because that nominee is conservative, then all it takes is for TWO of the seven RINOs who signed onto this deal to jump up and cry "foul". The "outraged" Senators will say, "We thought we had a deal with the Democrats but they have broken their end of the bargain. They have stabbed us in the back, and we now have no choice but to exercise our Constitutional option to change the filibuster rule." This deal may actually offer the RINOs cover to "change their minds" when push finally comes to shove!

So even while most of Bush's best nominees get confirmed without a filibuster, the Republicans can keep their finger on the nuclear button the whole time! In essence, this "deal" has ensured that when the time comes to "go nuclear", the vote will be there in spades.

Game, set, match.


101 posted on 05/25/2005 9:07:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; GaryL

YOU SAID..."I am beginning to wonder if the rats got themselves caught in a very clever trap."

When I hear this, I immediately ask...just who hatched this secret plan...and who was in on it? Were Rove, Frist and McCain secretly working behind the scenes to pull this off? Frist should win the Academy Award. If Rove is this clever...and has the RINO accomplices to pull this off...why not just do the simple direct thing and push for a vote to end the filibuster...wait...McCain said he doesnt want to end the filibuster...but this secret plan eventually leads to that, unless of course the dems play fair and never filibuster again...hmmmm....McCain and Reid both got rolled by Rove apparently...

YOU SAID.."It looks to me like the Republicans have come out on top in the public relations department by shedding the image of frenzied "extremists" who want to nuke the Senate, etc. As far as I can tell, the Democrats gained nothing from a public relations standpoint."

I disagree. The dems gain from a public relations standpoint because they can be spun by the MSM as both victorious and concilliatory...saving our Constitution from the ravages of those 'extreme' Republicans. However, if those wascally wepublicans get too 'extreme' in the future ("extreme circumstances")...they retain the right to retaliate...to once again save the Republic... they give up nothing in the way of PR.

The Republicans dont shed the extreme image either...it got reinforced...because McCain and company have painted themselves as the only sane, rational, responsible Republicans in the party...this was a deal done by THEM...not by the party as a whole. The MSM of course laps up the dissident pub angle...and McCain gets lots of face time to look presidential (or so he thinks).

Finally...if you find yourself on the opposite side of an argument from Rush, Bennett, Laura, and Sowell...think very carefully....is your Occams Razor a butter knife?


109 posted on 05/25/2005 10:04:22 AM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Lancey Howard
In essence, this "deal" has ensured that when the time comes to "go nuclear", the vote will be there in spades.
I agree with this. Remember, there are 14 deal makers. We only need 2 of them (that's 2 out of 14, not 2 out of 7) to go nuclear: 48 + 2 + VP. One or more of the deal-making RATS could jump ship, out of fear of conservative voting trends back home.
113 posted on 05/25/2005 10:57:40 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Lancey Howard

EXACTLY!!!! And I swear to you that last night I even heard Susan Collins - of all people!! - make the very points you are making. If they dare to try a filibuster over anybody to the left of, say, Attila the Hun, the Rinos will come back in a heartbeat, claiming they were betrayed!

As I said, we rolled 'em on this deal...but they don't realize it yet! But don't worry, it'll start sinking in shortly.


117 posted on 05/25/2005 11:51:18 AM PDT by GaryL
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