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LIVE SENATE THREAD: C-Span 2 9:30am EST "The Confirmation vote for Priscilla Owen"
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Posted on 05/25/2005 4:04:22 AM PDT by ken5050

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21 posted on 05/25/2005 4:32:44 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Bump


22 posted on 05/25/2005 4:37:31 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: ken5050

OK, I'll play.

I don't think there's a snowball's chance the Dems will let her get more than 59 votes.

I'll go out on a limb and say she gets all 55 pubbies, no Dems.

55-45...though it's very likely some dems will avoid the vote.


23 posted on 05/25/2005 4:42:38 AM PDT by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: All

Good Morning everyone! Here we go again!


24 posted on 05/25/2005 4:48:45 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: ken5050
FYI..did you see the bit about Durbin yesterday trying to get the cahir to say that 60 votes was needed to invoke cloture..?

No, I missed that.........I'll find it later.

25 posted on 05/25/2005 4:49:10 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: OXENinFLA

Was it Durbin? I remember, the question being asked, they were trying to pull something! Think Cheney will make an appearence?


26 posted on 05/25/2005 4:50:35 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Please explain the story on Inouye.....thanks.


27 posted on 05/25/2005 4:51:10 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: mewzilla

You got it...The Dems have been blowing Hillary's bases; blacks, hispanics, women...all to hell...over a single issue.....abortion. Hillary is on her knees in all this.


28 posted on 05/25/2005 4:54:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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RE:Inouye

Has the filibuster deal already been violated??

29 posted on 05/25/2005 4:58:58 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: ken5050

Bush needs to find some more, even more right-wing FEMALE judges, asap. Or else Myers, Saad and any other white male will never again sit on a Federal bench.


30 posted on 05/25/2005 5:00:35 AM PDT by montag813
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May 25, 1787 - Constitutional Convention convenes and elects officers.
Some attendees later predict the pitfalls and hazards that their modern day successors might very well succumb to.
31 posted on 05/25/2005 5:04:52 AM PDT by jla
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To: ken5050
Do you think Byrd will retire, or run again in 2006?

If the Laut can be resurrected, then Byrd can serve another term. Seriously, there will be a lot of pressure on him to run again because WV is trending red and Republicans would have a good chance at a pick up in that state, IMO.

32 posted on 05/25/2005 5:05:59 AM PDT by randita
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To: ken5050

You could be right with 62 votes. Reasonable expectations.

Also, you have a willing volunteer, per your tagline.........LOL


33 posted on 05/25/2005 5:06:58 AM PDT by Chuck54 (Real courage is when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway. - Harper Lee)
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To: mewzilla

Maybe I've just missed her, but it seems that Hillary's been conspicuously absent from this whole thing.


34 posted on 05/25/2005 5:08:05 AM PDT by nina0113
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Hill's been lying lower than a snake!


35 posted on 05/25/2005 5:11:46 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: ken5050

We'll see something today , could be good ,... but,I'll bet it'll be "cover tactics"


36 posted on 05/25/2005 5:19:37 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: defconw; All

Good morning folks. In other news on the Hildabeest, apparently Tony Snow had a recent run-in with her about his Soldier Ride program, he's slated to talk about it this this morning.

Also Lindsey Graham is on Tony's show today for those who are interested.

And FWIW, I think this is a horrible "deal" that got the good side damn little and the dark side a helluva lot. We'll be lucky to get 3 nominees confirmed at this point.


37 posted on 05/25/2005 5:20:08 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Republican Senators aren't interested in serving constitutuents. Only in making deals with RATS.)
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To: ken5050

To show that "the deal" is working and to lull their critics into believing in their saviorhood, my guess is that all the little Napoleons will vote for her.


38 posted on 05/25/2005 5:22:06 AM PDT by Carolinamom (US Senate: UN on the Potomac)
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To: nina0113
At the beginning of all this....she was a screeching maniac but that was before they lost the Whitehouse AGAIN...and it became apparent that folks are just a little bit more moral than she thought and are sick of baby killing and watching the Courts say....USA...NO GOD ALLOWED.

She's simply has to jump to the moral highroad. It's a big jump and her ego is attached to those short-fat legs. She'll fall flat on her face in the end...And Bill will love it!!

39 posted on 05/25/2005 5:22:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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The word "debate" is used, but the dysfunction is "refusal to vote." Every Senator knows where they stand on the nomination. There is no need for further persuasive debate.

In parliamentary proceedings, there is no way to separate debate from the vote. A matter is brought before the body, and can be disposed of in several ways. It can be tabled by a simple majority for a variety of reasons (could the Senate table the nomination of officer by the President?), or ruled as not in the scope of the body's charter.

If the matter is taken to debate, the debate will follow the rules of the body. Sometimes, cloture is required or desired. Its function is to reduce the amount of debate before taking the vote. Its function is emphatically NOT to avoid the vote altogether. Cloture is used to give power to the objections of members who have not had opportunity to speak, or who remain undecided on the matter because they have not heard enough debate. The need for debate is to faciltiate individual decision making, and once the members are firm in their convictions, the time for voting is ripe.

What the DEMs in the Senate have done is permit extended debate, followed with refual to vote. This is parliamentary dysfunction.


I predict Owen winning confirmation, but with fewer than 60 votes. If she gets more than 60 votes, the cloture charade is blown wide open, even to people who are clueless about the whys and wherefores of parliamentary procedure, Senate Rules, and the Constitution of the United States of America.
40 posted on 05/25/2005 5:22:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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