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To: Ichneumon; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; AndrewC; P-Marlowe; OrthodoxPresbyterian

They are so complex that we can't build them, and therefore, that is evidence that they had to be built.

Intuitively, yes. It makes much more sense than "We can't build them, and therefore, that is evidence that they accidentally (mechanistically) came about."

The mathematical model supports the intuition. It does not support the fallacious reasoning that they accidentally came about.


975 posted on 05/26/2005 4:16:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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They are so complex that we can't build them, and therefore, that is evidence that they had to be built.

Let's try that on a test case, shall we? "The Hawiaan Islands are so complex that we can't build them, and therefore, that is evidence that they had to be built".

Nice try, but your reasoning is obviously faulty since it leads to a false conclusion.

Go take a logic course and then get back to us.

Intuitively, yes.

Logically, no.

It makes much more sense than "We can't build them, and therefore, that is evidence that they accidentally (mechanistically) came about."

If anyone actually *did* use that line of argument, I'd help you point out their fallacy to them.

But since no one does, you are quite welcome to take your Straw Man Fallacy and sit on it, hard. I'm getting tired of your falsehoods. If you dont' understand science, and clearly you don't, please do not attempt to put words in anyone's mouth, because you've made a number of insultingly false accusations here. Stop your misrepresentations.

The mathematical model supports the intuition.

No, actually, it doesn't. If you feel that it does, show me the math. Go for it. This should be a *lot* of fun.

It does not support the fallacious reasoning that they accidentally came about.

The evidence does, and the currently feasible mathematical analyses of the evidence indicates that it's hardly out of the question.

Go learn some science before you spread more lies about it. Seriously. A "Retired Army Chaplain" should not be proud of spouting frequent falsehoods.

986 posted on 05/26/2005 4:37:16 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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