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To: Fester Chugabrew
How did you know where they came from?

I observed their derivation. My family owns manufacturing plants.

Did you have to see someone designing and building them to know it did not design and assemble itself?

I had to at least see a representation thereof. All my observation since has confirmed the representation.

If you saw a hammer for the first time, and were not told that someone had to fashion that hammer, would you assume it is a product of natural selection and random mutation or other "natural forces" devoid of intelligence?

You mean, if I saw a hammer today for the first time? The answer to your question would then be no. I would surely recognize it as technology and I know where technology originates.

PS. I am starting to get the distinct impression that you value your time far less than I value mine. ;)

1,306 posted on 05/27/2005 9:37:56 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
I had to at least see a representation thereof.

So then, may I assume that in each case where you've come across a man-made object and understood it to be such, you accept it as "man-made" because you've seen it manufactured before, and therefore know it is designed? This is the only evidence that would convince you of intelligent design? I don't think so. I would like to know what properties of an object lead you to conclude intelligent design was involved with it's existence.

I am starting to get the distinct impression that you value your time far less than I value mine.

I happen to be persistent. I also wish to ask simple questions in order to understand where you are coming from. The time spent in dialogue with you has been valuable indeed, but worth it.

1,308 posted on 05/27/2005 10:20:35 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: AntiGuv
PS. I am starting to get the distinct impression that you value your time far less than I value mine. ;)

Bingo!

1,310 posted on 05/27/2005 10:26:42 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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