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Creationism: God's gift to the ignorant (Religion bashing alert)
Times Online UK ^ | May 21, 2005 | Richard Dawkins

Posted on 05/25/2005 3:41:22 AM PDT by billorites

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To: donh

Another attack....my my how intellectual of you and no, I don't debate the Word of G-d. As a Christian it is wrong.


1,041 posted on 05/26/2005 6:22:42 PM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: AntiGuv
This Antiguv fellow has an opinion about everything! Someone should just tell him to shut the heck up!

I'll remember that the next time we on different sides of a SCOTUS holding.

Note to self: If antiguv is winning the argument, tell him to shut the heck up.

1,042 posted on 05/26/2005 6:23:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Gumlegs
These could not possibly have happened by chance!

Although you say so in jest, I believe you are correct.

1,043 posted on 05/26/2005 6:23:58 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Right Wing Professor

Thunderous applause. This one's a keeper.


1,044 posted on 05/26/2005 6:24:12 PM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: js1138; Gumlegs

Weren't they going to try and rebuild it? Or was it not feasible? I was a bit sad when he fell off the mountain. =(


1,045 posted on 05/26/2005 6:24:44 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Right Wing Professor
And you'd be wrong.

If I view the image you posted correctly, my conclusion in that case would have to be modified. God made the cube, and you are God.

Am I close?

1,046 posted on 05/26/2005 6:26:35 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: PatrickHenry
The best example of this is to shuffle a deck of cards, and then deal them out in their shuffled sequence. The odds against that particular sequence is 57!

When someone notices the five extra cards you've snuck into the deck, you're going to be in a heap of trouble.

1,047 posted on 05/26/2005 6:26:46 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Fester Chugabrew

hehe I could feel those goalposts flying by before you even posted!


1,048 posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:27 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: donh
(Original poster) If you do not believe these things [resurrection, virgin birth] and believe Jesus is the son of G-d then you aren't a Christian.

(Donh) - As I read this, if you aren't making a grammatical error, you are saying that many modern reform churches are not Christian.

I am not sure I understand what you mean by “modern reform churches”. The word “reform” or “reformed” is often used by Calvinist churches. You are not referring to those, are you? Are there really many churches that call themselves “reform” and as part of their beliefs deny the virgin birth and the resurrection, but believe Jesus is the son of God?

1,049 posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:49 PM PDT by Teslas Pigeon
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To: Fester Chugabrew
If I view the image you posted correctly, my conclusion in that case would have to be modified. God made the cube, and you are God. Am I close?

Closer than a lot of your other conclusions, certainly.

1,050 posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:56 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: PatrickHenry

What are the odds of walking away from the table with 57 cards in the deck?


1,051 posted on 05/26/2005 6:28:49 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Fester Chugabrew; Ichneumon
To: Ichneumon

Sure.

Hehe. That is far from a brief example, and I have no idea whether you are addressing one who presrents the proponents of ID. Be that as it may, I stopped and chuckled at your words, "'random assembly' could take place." If nothing else, you are a living, breathing, oxymoron.

1,035 posted on 05/26/2005 9:19:41 PM EDT by Fester Chugabrew

Oh! No! TOO! MANY! WORDS!

Ichny, if you can't post a scientific concept in less time than it takes to chuggabrew, fuggedaboudit!

1,052 posted on 05/26/2005 6:28:57 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Should I gather then, that science has no business examining the geologic column and extrapolating from the evidence backward as to what might have happened to cause it's present condition?

This would be true if other lines of evidence were not available. This is forensice science, and no single line of evidence can be convincing in isolation.Pretty ironic that this is done by people who profess to believe in design.

1,053 posted on 05/26/2005 6:30:20 PM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
[Science does not waste its time calculating the probability of things that have already happened.]

Should I gather then, that science has no business examining the geologic column and extrapolating from the evidence backward as to what might have happened to cause it's present condition?

No, you shouldn't. Try rereading his comment (or better yet, all the posts on this topic) and try again. You're not only mixing apples and oranges, your doing apples and typewriters.

1,054 posted on 05/26/2005 6:31:19 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: js1138
Well it was there the last time I looked!
1,055 posted on 05/26/2005 6:32:15 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Ichneumon
When someone notices the five extra cards you've snuck into the deck, you're going to be in a heap of trouble.

I must have had my reason clouded by thoughts of the lovely Mrs. Kerry. Well, okay. 52 factorial. And that computes out to be 8.06581752 × 1067.

1,056 posted on 05/26/2005 6:33:56 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: jwalsh07
What are the odds of walking away from the table with 57 cards in the deck?

Are you arguing that gene or chromosome count never varies within a species?

1,057 posted on 05/26/2005 6:34:38 PM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Hehe. That is far from a brief example,

The briefer they are, the more invalid, as a rule. Biology is seldom simple, and any attempts to model it with "brief" analysis are pretty much doomed to be fatally oversimplified.

and I have no idea whether you are addressing one who presrents the proponents of ID.

His worship of Behe didn't tip you off?

Be that as it may, I stopped and chuckled at your words, "'random assembly' could take place."

Why? Is it truly your contention that molecules are incapable of joining in random order? Fascinating...

If nothing else, you are a living, breathing, oxymoron.

In what way?

1,058 posted on 05/26/2005 6:34:56 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Right Wing Professor
Yes. And you understand this is for everyone else, not for you. I know you want to stay ignorant, and I want to let you.

That's not very nice, using a post to me to lecture everyone else while enjoining me to refrain from reading and comprehending out of a concern that I remain ignorant. Piss poor attitude, in short, for a perfesser.

But, just to spite your arrogant buns I won't shield my eyes. Instead I will do my best to read and comprehend your screed in an effort to determine whether it truly addresses the value, or lack thereof, in using mathematics and probabilities as a tool for obtaining evidence of intelligence or design.

My first clue of its value is that an intelligent agent is giving us a lecture about numbers as a non-factor, while using numbers to make the point. You wouldn't be related ot that other oxymoron, would you? Sind sie ein "Ich?"

1,059 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:18 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: furball4paws

About as intelligent as the human body.


1,060 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:48 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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