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Note on "The Nuclear Option"
pure vanity | 5/24/05

Posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:22 AM PDT by pabianice

In the throes of anguish over the last minute Senatorial Republican cave-in, many are missing an important point. Yes, the invertebrates have promised no constitutional option during this congress (i.e. until the fall of 2006) ... as long as the Dems have promised not to fillibuster judicial nominess except in "extraordinary circumstances."

Since it is a cinch that the Dems will simply again fillibuster all Bush nominees after the three named ones have been confirmed, they will have violated the deal. The question is when the Repubs will acknowledge this and vote to end judicial fillibusters.


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1 posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:28 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I think the whole Senate needs a spanking.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:00 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Catholic school survivor and proud of it.)
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To: pabianice
Since it is a cinch that the Dems will simply again fillibuster all Bush nominees after the three named ones have been confirmed, they will have violated the deal. The question is when the Repubs will acknowledge this and vote to end judicial fillibusters.

Several of the GOP members will support the nuclear option should the Dems abuse the filibuster. This is not the end of the world.

3 posted on 05/24/2005 9:47:54 AM PDT by Always Right
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The strategy for the 2006 elections is simple. We only need 50. Screw Chaffee, screw the rest of the RINOS. If I were the President and the RNC, I would not waste time or a dime on any Northeast RINOs. I would look to get to the magic number of 50 Conservatives even better 51 Conservatives. If that means the Republican Party loses some seats, so be it. Better to have a bare majority of conservatives rather than a supermajority of RINOs.


4 posted on 05/24/2005 9:52:25 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: pabianice
There is no up side on this dark deal. Seven Republicans surrendered the fight in advance breaking faith with tens of millions of Americans who worked hard to put them where they are.

People get the leadership they deserve. Perhaps we can correct some of these mistakes in '08.

And maybe its the end of the conservative movement.

5 posted on 05/24/2005 9:52:36 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: pabianice

Why would they grow a backbone then if they wouldn't now?


6 posted on 05/24/2005 9:53:44 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: pabianice
Mr. Frist says he did not sign off on this or ratified the deal. If the senate leadership/Frist does not fight this then these 14 senators now control the senate (and to some extent, the presidency).

If Mr. Frist is to subjugate this fiasco and regain our support; he must bring ALL of the nominees to a vote like he promised/demanded be done. If the democrats filibuster them (which they will) then he can show that the deal was phony. The big question is this:

Does he have the guts to do it? If he wants to maintain our support, his political career etc,... I pray that he does.

7 posted on 05/24/2005 10:00:35 AM PDT by Jmouse007 ("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
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The question is when the Repubs will acknowledge this and vote to end judicial fillibusters.

Never. The pubbies suffer from a lethal combination of pride, stupidity, gullibility and lack of balls. Fire Frist, tell McVain he should just change parties and then get on with it. As for Warner, Snow, Chaffee, Collins, Graham, Voinovich, Hagel and the rest of the RINOs: We know who you are, and WE VOTE! Buy your plane tickets home early, 'cause you won't be going back to DC YOU FILTHY TRAITORS!!!!!

8 posted on 05/24/2005 10:05:22 AM PDT by Bombardier (Rename the Senate the "Bill Frist National RINO Preserve")
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Mr. Frist says he did not sign off on this or ratified the deal.

And yet he's done nothing in response, other than feign disappointment. He is a gutless wonder and should be removed from the leadership.

9 posted on 05/24/2005 10:05:35 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: pabianice

And by the way, the White House seems awfully silent on this. It's after 1pm Eastern and I've heard nothing from WH or from Frist or even from Denny "Bathroom Break" Hastert.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 10:10:37 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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And yet he's done nothing in response, other than feign disappointment.

Where has there been any opportunity for Frist to do anything?

Are you unwilling to wait and see what happens when the Demo's filibuster another nominee before making any judgments of him?

11 posted on 05/24/2005 10:13:39 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: theDentist

Why's he called "Bathroom break" hastert?


12 posted on 05/24/2005 10:15:17 AM PDT by Dozer3
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OH! I almost forgot to say that I think that the only thing that has really happened is that the magnificent 7 RINO'S have helped th Dim's "kick the can" down the road a piece. Nothing more.


13 posted on 05/24/2005 10:16:42 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun

Not anymore. He's dragged his feet for 2 years on this. He should have been on TV after the gang of 7 sold us out saying that it was NOT agreed to, that he would NOT Honor it, and that the Voting would start immediately in the morning. But he's said next to nothing. He's done nothing. He is gutless and a failed leader.


14 posted on 05/24/2005 10:17:14 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Dozer3

He's never around when you need him or want to ask a question of him. He's constantly "unavailable for comment" or "studying the question". It's like he's constantly on a bathroom break.


15 posted on 05/24/2005 10:19:48 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Dozer3

Limbaugh is talking about this right now. He says that McCain is doing this to make frist look bad so he can have the inside track on the nomination in '08. The way I see it, McCain shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the nomination in 08 if for nothing else then McCain, Feingold trashing the 1st amendment with their campaign finance reform.

I expect it from a commi like Feingold but for McCain to call himself a conservative and to craft legislation that muzzles political speech is beyond the pale.


16 posted on 05/24/2005 10:20:10 AM PDT by Dozer3
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To: pabianice

So the Democrats will behave badly and the Republicans will roll over again. So what else is new?


17 posted on 05/24/2005 10:20:50 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: theDentist
Not anymore. He's dragged his feet for 2 years on this. He should have been on TV after the gang of 7 sold us out saying that it was NOT agreed to, that he would NOT Honor it, and that the Voting would start immediately in the morning. But he's said next to nothing. He's done nothing.

I agree that this has taken longer than it should have but to say that he has done nothing is disingenuous IMHO (I was not there and neither, I assume, were you so how do we know what went on other than what the media has reported? I know who's side they are on!).

I will reserve judgment on Frist until this plays out completely.

18 posted on 05/24/2005 10:23:04 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun

He has months to see this coming and get McCain in line or out the door. He's done nothing.


19 posted on 05/24/2005 10:23:28 AM PDT by stitches1951 (Support the RNC with $0.00 check today, tomorrow there may be no GOP!)
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To: Dozer3

McCain is a populist piece of crap. The guy has been riding his POW status for too long and I think that horse is on its last leg.

Can ya tell I don't like McCain? lol


20 posted on 05/24/2005 10:23:36 AM PDT by Dozer3
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