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Same-Sex Child Custody Battles Headed to California Supreme Court
AP ^ | 5/24/05 | Lisa Leff

Posted on 05/24/2005 2:33:24 AM PDT by Crackingham

If you're a kid who has two moms instead of a mom and a dad, what happens to you if they break up? Does one pay child support? Does she also get visitation rights? The answers might be clear if your parents were a man and a woman who weren't married. But if your moms didn't register as domestic partners, what are everyone's rights in the eyes of the law? That will be determined by the California Supreme Court, which is scheduled to hear oral arguments Tuesday in three child custody and support cases involving lesbians who parted ways acrimoniously after becoming mothers.

All center on whether laws crafted to shield children from the stain of illegitimacy by establishing clear parental rights and responsibilities for absent fathers apply when the estranged couples consist of two men or two women. Gay rights and children's advocates say the answer is simple: Adults who help bring children into the world with the intent of raising them should be regarded as parents, regardless of sexual orientation, marital status or blood ties. Yet, lower courts - absent adoption papers or a formal domestic partnership - have shied away from recognizing the nonbiological parent in a broken, gay family.

"To the child, a parent is parent because that is the person who got up in the night and held them and put Band-Aids on their knees," said Deborah Wald, a San Francisco family law attorney with a large lesbian clientele.

"California is so clear about that when we are dealing with a mother and father, but when it comes to lesbian couples the courts have been the scalpel to remove children from the parents they deeply bonded to."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: custodybattle; gaymarriage; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; mymommyisdemented; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 05/24/2005 2:33:24 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

This is my major objection to gay "marriage".

The children.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 2:51:55 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Crackingham
Oh goody. A nice big fat gray area. Liberals love to play in these.

(steely)

3 posted on 05/24/2005 3:44:29 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Crackingham

NO. There is no DNA, it will go to the Supremes, and the bill will be paid by TAXPAYERS. Simple and easy. Another mess that people make of things when we don't follow the RULES that are Natural, Creator Given and need to be protected and handed down to the next generation.


4 posted on 05/24/2005 3:52:26 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Crackingham

If there is no domestic partnership and the non biological parent did not adopt, obviously the child stays with the biological mother. If a person wants parental rights she or he should adopt. It's a shame we have to clean up the mess these liberals make. This is going to get worse when cloning comes into play. Sooner or later, someone will figure out a way, if not already, where a child can be the biological product of two women.


5 posted on 05/24/2005 4:47:31 AM PDT by sportutegrl (Huh?)
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To: rovenstinez
NO. There is no DNA, it will go to the Supremes, and the bill will be paid by TAXPAYERS. Simple and easy. Another mess that people make of things when we don't follow the RULES that are Natural, Creator Given and need to be protected and handed down to the next generation.

just thought those words needed more highlghting

6 posted on 05/24/2005 5:29:23 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Crackingham

This is going to be painful for the libs as their hypocrisy will be on display


7 posted on 05/24/2005 5:33:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Crackingham

Homosexuals have no "rights" to other people's children, regardless of whether or not they ever had a sexual relationship with one of the parents.


8 posted on 05/24/2005 6:30:13 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Unless the non-biological partner has adopted the child or children. Then it's a bit stickier.


9 posted on 05/24/2005 6:35:49 AM PDT by Chiapet (Chthulu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: Crackingham

Custody battles usually turned on who was the 'nuturing' parent or most able to fulfill that role, especially with young children. The female of almost every species usually fills that role and the law usually came down in favor of the female 'mother' unless there were exceptional circumstances.

Now, with two females involved for example, the role of the court is much more difficult in trying to decide which is the most likely to be a nurturing parent.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 7:23:58 AM PDT by wildbill
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