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Text of Filibuster Deal
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| Monday, May 23, 2005
| Rats and Rinos
Posted on 05/23/2005 5:23:07 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: etcb
This is Frist's fault.We didn't we ever make them hold the floor?
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:33:21 PM PDT
by
Gipper08
(MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
To: kristinn
We believe that, under Article II, Section 2, of the United States Constitution, the word Advice speaks to consultation between the Senate and the President with regard to the use of the Presidents power to make nominationsPerhaps the senators need to go back and read the Constitution. The President is under no obligation to get the consent of the Senate to send a nominee up for a vote.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:33:39 PM PDT
by
jess35
To: Trueblackman
Frist's remarks on the floor just now tell me he's accepted the deal.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:33:45 PM PDT
by
kristinn
To: GeoPie
TILL THE NEXT ELECTION 2006. Basically the Dems can filibuster if thy feel it is extraordinary circumstances but we forfeit the bird option till elections of 2006.Nothing (excebt lack of balls) to stop the Pubbies from unilaterally repudiating the agreement if they feel the Dems are acting in such bad faith as to render the agreement invalid. That's what the lefties would do.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:33:58 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
To: kristinn
There are no "extraordinary circumstances" that would justfy a filibuster of Saad or Myers.
So we'll find out tomorrow what this agreement amounts to.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:34:37 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
To: kristinn
B. Rules Changes. In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement, we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII.This is a sellout, pure and simple. The RINO signatories to this agreement should be made to pay dearly for this treason. I suggest that Bush and the RNC announce their intention to actively campaign against the re-election of each and every RINO signatory.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:34:54 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Resistance is futile: We are the Blog)
To: etcb
Why didn't we make them hold the floor?
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:35:01 PM PDT
by
Gipper08
(MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
To: kristinn
In a sense he did. If the GOP discipline held, it'd be a massive humiliation and all the judges would have gone through. At least he has a PR victory.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:35:02 PM PDT
by
JAWs
To: kristinn
LOL! If Reid's so happy, why are judicial nominees the Democrats loathe going to be elevated to the federal appeals bench? Again, if the Democrats had the votes to defeat the constitutional option, they wouldn't have made a deal. They lost. Dingy Harry can spin it all he wants but the Democrats just got beaten again by President Bush!
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:35:22 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: kristinn
In a sense he did. If the GOP discipline held, it'd be a massive humiliation and all the judges would have gone through. At least he has a PR victory.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:35:28 PM PDT
by
JAWs
To: ArmyBratproud
I'm assuming the plan is McCain/Graham vs. Hitlery/Obama in 2008.
To: Still Thinking
They may find "extraordinary information" overnight on Owens. Would anyone be surprised?
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:35:43 PM PDT
by
jess35
To: Unam Sanctam
Two years. It will end with the election in 2006 and the 110th Congress will be seated in January, 2007.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:35:49 PM PDT
by
ops33
(Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
To: All
Just more reasons to "love" the 17th Amendment. Republican led Senate is just a lobbyist country club. At least when the Demos ran it they push there agenda.
I guess we have a bunch of Republican eunuchs in the Senate who just dress in suits to fool people who think they have balls.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:36:13 PM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
To: Darkwolf
Frist did not do this! What is wrong with you! Blame those that signed this POS. Like my Senator Lindsey McCain Graham
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:36:52 PM PDT
by
SoCar
(Refugee from NJ)
To: kristinn
"Nominees should be filibustered only under extraordinary circumstances"
I'm sure the Dems will claim extraordinary circumstances to be defined as the nomination of any "conservative Republican" .
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:36:52 PM PDT
by
texasmountainman
(proud father of a U.S. Marine)
To: Trueblackman
He is not the Majority Leader if he cant LEAD 51 (GOP) senators.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:37:02 PM PDT
by
beckaz
(The facts of life are conservative. (Maggie Thatcher))
To: kristinn
I will vote for any conservative who runs against John Warner next time.....even if he's dead!
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:37:28 PM PDT
by
blueyon
(civil war looms because repubs are cartoons)
To: JAWs
Yep. Now they're arguing about who gets to speak on the Senate floor to crow about their deal. Sen. Allard is getting the shaft. He was scheduled to speak now.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:38:01 PM PDT
by
kristinn
To: Darkwolf
Frist folds.I don't see it. Running the senate's like herding cats. If those 14 Senators make the agreement that they've made, there's not thing one that Frist (or Reid) can do about it. Reid can try to maintain the filibuster, but without those "moderate" Democrats, the cloture vote will pass. Frist can try to change the rules, but without those "moderate" Republicans, he can't. I don't see this deal involving Frist or Reid at all.
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posted on
05/23/2005 5:38:06 PM PDT
by
Lyford
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