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To: Windcatcher
On the surface it looks like the RINO usual suspects sold us out. But I think the Dims have really boxed themselves into a losing position.

According to the deal, GWB's most controversial nominees, Janice Rogers Brown, William Prior and Priscilla Owen will all get cloture votes supported by the 14 signatories. That ensures up or down votes on the floor where all three should be confirmed.

The Dims reserve the right to filibuster future nominees "in extreme circumstances". That's where the Dims have been snookered.

The rat bastards have already savaged Owen, Brown and Pryor as the most extremist, racist, out of the mainstream nominees imaginable. They may as well have accused all three as being the Antichrist.

By supporting cloture, the 14 have established a standard for the kind of nominees they will support for floor votes. From the conservative perspective that's great news because those three are exactly the kind of judges we want at the appellate and SCOTUS level. GWB will be free to nominate judges with similar backgrounds and views in the future, pointing to fact that the Senate had already confirmed judges the Dims characterized in the most vile and comptemptuous language possible.

The Dims will have a very difficult time in the future if they try to make a case that a future nominee is an "extreme circumstance" after supporting Owen, Pryor and Brown.
1,634 posted on 05/23/2005 7:15:10 PM PDT by sdkhaki
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To: sdkhaki


The FULL TEXT ( from HughHewitt.com )

MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ON JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS

We respect the diligent, conscientious efforts, to date, rendered to the Senate by Majority Leader Frist and Democratic Leader Reid. This memorandum confirms an understanding among the signatories, based upon mutual trust and confidence, related to pending and future judicial nominations in the 109th Congress.

This memorandum is in two parts. Part I relates to the currently pending judicial nominees; Part II relates to subsequent individual nominations to be made by the President and to be acted upon by the Senate’s Judiciary Committee.

We have agreed to the following:

Part I: Commitments on Pending Judicial Nominations

A. Votes for Certain Nominees. We will vote to invoke cloture on the following judicial nominees: Janice Rogers Brown (D.C. Circuit), William Pryor (11th Circuit), and Priscilla Owen (5th Circuit).

B. Status of Other Nominees. Signatories make no commitment to vote for or against cloture on the following judicial nominees: William Myers (9th Circuit) and Henry Saad (6th Circuit).

Part II: Commitments for Future Nominations

A. Future Nominations. Signatories will exercise their responsibilities under the Advice and Consent Clause of the United States Constitution in good faith. Nominees should only be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in determining whether such circumstances exist.

B. Rules Changes. In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement, we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII.

We believe that, under Article II, Section 2, of the United States Constitution, the word “Advice” speaks to consultation between the Senate and the President with regard to the use of the President’s power to make nominations. We encourage the Executive branch of government to consult with members of the Senate, both Democratic and Republican, prior to submitting a judicial nomination to the Senate for consideration.

Such a return to the early practices of our government may well serve to reduce the rancor that unfortunately accompanies the advice and consent process in the Senate.

We firmly believe this agreement is consistent with the traditions of the United States Senate that we as Senators seek to uphold.




1,642 posted on 05/23/2005 7:16:29 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: sdkhaki

I don't agree with everyone's logic that the "extreme circumstances" standard has been set. The dems don't believe in logic or truth. They are buying their time until the first USSC nominee comes up. It doesn't matter who Bush nominates. What the dems call it "extreme circumstances". Mark my word. I donated hundreds of dollars in 2004 to Bush and the RNC. No more money from me. May cost us some seats, but you gotta have principals. Unlike the 7 so called republicans who cut this deal.


1,650 posted on 05/23/2005 7:19:54 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: sdkhaki
The rat bastards have already savaged Owen, Brown and Pryor as the most extremist, racist, out of the mainstream nominees imaginable. They may as well have accused all three as being the Antichrist. By supporting cloture, the 14 have established a standard for the kind of nominees they will support for floor votes.

Remember, these are RATS. They will stand there with a smile on their face in pure blatant unadulterated hypocrisy and filibuster judges claiming "extraordinary circumstances". Then they'll say that "individual Senators" get to decide the definition of "extraordinary circumstances" per the deal. They'll filibuster SCOTUS or circuit court judges right and left from now on. McCain and his pack of RINOs will back them up on it too. Anybody who doesn't realize this is gullible.
1,661 posted on 05/23/2005 7:22:04 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: sdkhaki

"The Dims reserve the right to filibuster future nominees "in extreme circumstances". That's where the Dims have been snookered."

That's if we can trust the Dims...we can't

It will become an "extreme Circumstance" with any nominee for the SCOTUS of anyone who is not to left of Souder...


1,668 posted on 05/23/2005 7:23:09 PM PDT by 4bushinOH
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To: sdkhaki
"The Dims reserve the right to filibuster future nominees "in extreme circumstances". That's where the Dims have been snookered.

By supporting cloture, the 14 have established a standard for the kind of nominees they will support for floor votes. From the conservative perspective that's great news because those three are exactly the kind of judges we want at the appellate and SCOTUS level.

The Dims will have a very difficult time in the future if they try to make a case that a future nominee is an "extreme circumstance" after supporting Owen, Pryor and Brown."

In fact, at the time appropriate, Brown's name should be sent as Ginsberg's replacement.

1,737 posted on 05/23/2005 7:45:37 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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