BRB - it's Miller time...lol.
Posted on 05/23/2005 4:18:39 PM PDT by jern
Announce Filibuster Compromise
BRB - it's Miller time...lol.
This is what the flipside of the Free Republic is saying about the deal:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_05/006361.php#600837
They seem to be just as outraged.
The seven have shown they won't vote for a CO.
Thanks for the names. I have been looking for them.
I think Santorum extracted a promise from Specter, who, to his credit, kept it.
I am also glad that Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski (sp?) didn't join them.
The 7 Republican Senators should suffer consequences, such as losing committee appointments and so on.
They defied their own party to side with the Democrats.
Excuses, excuses, you sound like a democrat..lol.
How could the RINOs do this? I feel like throwing up. They didn't just sell out the Republican party today, they sold out AMERICA.
This deal makes no sense at all. Why bargain with the Democrats when they have NO LEVERAGE AT ALL to negotiate with? If the RINOs didn't betrey America then the constitutional option would pass 55-45. Then we get ALL of our judges, not just three. Instead RINOs settle for a few judges and a lame false promise for the future??
Please kick these RINOs out of the party.
Lieberman
If there is any loss, it hasn't manifested itself yet. The loss is a belief that the Senate cannot muster 50 votes to honor the Constitutional principle of balance between the president and the Senate. The GOP half of the gang of 14 may feel different about that in a couple weeks.
My first impression of the memorandum of understanding is that it is merely a delay to the restoration of the principle of balance between the president and the Senate regarding nominations, carried out in up-and-down votes on nominations.
It is smoke and mirrors to cover for the DEMs voting to approve the cloture motion. It is a face-saving and delay device. It has a silver lining in that it exposes a number of Senator's disdain for the Constitution.
The damage to the GOP is self-inflicted, because it cast itself as holding the nuclear trigger, and is now perceived as weak.
The nominations of Saad if reported out of committee, will again raise the issue of DEM agreement to vote. Myers is out of committee and is NOW on the Executive Calendar. If the DEMs withhold unanimous consent to vote, and 16 Senators do NOT file a cloture motion on them, then the GOP will have caved totally to the edict of the 14.
The Bolton Nomination is on the Executive Calendar too. ;-)
Agree,DevSix, but those senators need to cowboy the f up and show me unequivocally that they are hellbent on winning this fight. ACQUIESCING TO THIS IS ABANDONMENT. I NEED TO HEAR THAT THeFIGHT WILL RAGE ON---TO VICTORY!
That describes my sentiments as aptly as anything right now.
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Do you have any idea what it takes to have a "true filibuster"? It takes one RAT and virtually all of the Republicans on the floor of the Senate, to ensure a quorum. If there is no quorum, the RAT gets to call for a quorum and take a break.
I'm getting damned sick and tired of you people who are blaming Frist when the real culprits are McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine and Chafee.
From my point of view, Frist has done everything that he could to herd the cats and bring them to the brink of pulling the trigger. And the infamous seven stabbed him in the back.
And people like you are attacking the guy who is on our side. Ridiculous.
"John McCain is the "France" of the Republican party"
I agree. Although he campaigned for GW in 2004, he has never gotten over his loss in the 2000 primaries. He plays nice with W in public, but looks for every opportunity to stab the Prez in the back.
If McCain has presidential ambitions for 2008, he just lose the GOP base tonight. He just shot himself in the foot.
Yeah, but I think only Warner of VA, Graham of SC, and Dewine of OH, can be spanked.
Snowe, Collins and Chaffe are in states where GOP is minority and
McCain, well, what can we predict about his future?
Run for POTUS in a 3rd Party like his hero Teddy Roosevelt?
The party had a chance to crush the dems and inflict decades of damage. 7 bastard senators sold that victory for self promotion.
"The Dims reserve the right to filibuster future nominees "in extreme circumstances". That's where the Dims have been snookered.By supporting cloture, the 14 have established a standard for the kind of nominees they will support for floor votes. From the conservative perspective that's great news because those three are exactly the kind of judges we want at the appellate and SCOTUS level.
The Dims will have a very difficult time in the future if they try to make a case that a future nominee is an "extreme circumstance" after supporting Owen, Pryor and Brown."
In fact, at the time appropriate, Brown's name should be sent as Ginsberg's replacement.
JUST HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS "COMPROMISE" HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED TO YOU ?
Harry Reid said that they have just sent a message to President Bush..."THAT HE MUST STOP ABUSING HIS POWER" ! He also said that they've saved the Republic from the far right wing lunatics. He also said that from here on out, they are going to move very slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly. That the "nuclear option" is OFF THE TABLE !
I e-mailed the chairman of the RNC demanding that he take my name off of their mailing lists. I've had it.
I again point out that all those of us who are fuming need to consider very carefully the magnitude of the disaster if Frist had pressed the button and the votes had not been there.
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