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To: AndrewC

Group hysteria, let's get some perspective ....

The buzz in the blogospere is frantic over the compromise reached by the 12 Senators concerning the 5 Judicial nominees offered up by George Bush. Here is my take, the Republicans won this round. Here's why:

1) We have an up or down vote guaranteed on the 3 most contentious nominees Brown, Owen and Pryor.

2) We have given up nothing. The Dims promised not to filibuster unless under extraordinary circumstances. The other two nominess can be brought to the floor and if filibustered the Dims can be made out to be liars because the 3 most arguably extreme judges have already been allowed through.

3) The nuclear option can still be be used at any time.

4) The Dims got absolutely nothing except it allowed them a way out of this morass without totally losing face.

5) It will be virtually impossible for the Dims to try and filibuster one of these nominees if they are ever in line for the Supreme Court because they have already capitulated on them.

I was never sure that Frist had the votes to go nuclear, if he did he will have them a few weeks down the road should they be needed. The crapweasels blinked and we are better off now then we were a week ago.


1,352 posted on 05/23/2005 6:22:14 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
Here is my take, the Republicans won this round. Here's why:

I agree. We get the votes done. We could get our judges, and the democrats have to sit down and shut up.

Isn't this what we wanted all along? To vote without a filibuster? That's what we got.

1,406 posted on 05/23/2005 6:30:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: traderrob6

Exactly!!!!

The Republicans didn't win the war, but they won a very important battle, with no casualties!!!!

Dean in Az


1,411 posted on 05/23/2005 6:30:47 PM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: traderrob6

I agree. To be consistent, the RINO's must not vote for a filibusterable nominee, that would make the nominee not extreme to them. If they do not vote for such a nominee, there is no need to filibuster since the nominee would not receive enough votes to win confirmation.


1,423 posted on 05/23/2005 6:32:59 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: traderrob6

..." floor and if filibustered the Dims can be made out to be liars because the 3 most arguably extreme judges have already been allowed through"....

1. These judges were not extremists

2. Since they have made no attempt to correct any of their lies thus far, do you really think they will care if they are called liars or not in the future?
This is deal was made with the devil... GOP..0 Rats..the game


1,515 posted on 05/23/2005 6:51:09 PM PDT by 4bushinOH
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To: traderrob6

And, I think we all live to fight another day. Can we expect the Dems to filibuster future nominees? Yes. Can we expect the nuclear option to be rolled out again for possible deployment? Yes. Basically, all they've done is kick the can further down the road. The Dems will spin this as a "win" for them, but with the three most conservative Bush nominees now getting a free-pass, only their moronic base will believe this is a win. The crisis will probably reheat during the first Supreme Ct. nomination.


1,533 posted on 05/23/2005 6:54:08 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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