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Are Cessna's safe?
1 posted on 05/23/2005 3:06:31 AM PDT by Conservatrix
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To: Conservatrix

Darned safe. The safest around. Problem is, in this case apparently, and in the case of 80% of all aircraft mishaps, pilot error.


2 posted on 05/23/2005 3:10:16 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Conservatrix
Survivor's Guilt.

Bless her heart...I imagine that's pretty hard to deal with.

4 posted on 05/23/2005 3:13:21 AM PDT by Allegra (The Green Zone....It's a Blast.)
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To: Conservatrix

No guilt necessary for her.

Realistic guilt is when we know we hurt someone through our own actions.

Unrealist guilt is taking on guilt in a situation when I did not cause hurt.


7 posted on 05/23/2005 3:26:14 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Conservatrix
Are Cessna's safe?

I'm glad this question doesn't get posted everytime a car crashes.....Talk about overloading a web site......

9 posted on 05/23/2005 3:31:03 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Conservatrix

http://theintelligencer.net/ (The Intelligencer & Wheeling News Register)

Communities, School Mourn Crash Victims
McMECHEN - Students, teachers and community members gathered in front of Bishop Donohue High School Sunday to help each other grieve the loss of students JoBeth Gross, Danielle Block and her father, Courtney.

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25 posted on 05/23/2005 3:57:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Conservatrix
"She feels guilty. Wouldn't you?"

No. Did she know of the plane crash before it happened? Did she force they other person into her seat?

Obviously "No" to both questions.

Guilt is a fact not a feeling. One is either guilty or not guilty.

One can be guilty and wrongly not feel any conviction. One can also be not guilty and wrongly feel some conviction.

Both extremes are equally repugnant.

42 posted on 05/23/2005 5:01:00 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81MM Mortars, Wpns CO. 2/3 KMCAS 86 - 89)
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To: Conservatrix

Shades of Waylen Jennings!
(gave up his seat so the Big Bopper [who was to sick too ride the bus], Buddy Holly, and Richy Valence could go on "the day the music died".)

Time to reflect and dedicate ones life.


60 posted on 05/23/2005 5:45:33 AM PDT by G Larry (Promote Conservative Judges NOW!)
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To: Conservatrix
It's not the plane, it's the pilot.

Cessnas are the safest planes around. I've been a pilot since I was 16 although I'm not current at the moment, and the vast, vast majority of my time is in Cessna 150s and 172s.

They are not very fast, not very sexy, but they are ultra reliable and basically will fly themselves if you just stay out of the way. My college flying club had a Grumman American Yankee (now THERE's a dangerous aircraft, at least for novice pilots) - the first thing I did as the newly elected prez was to SELL that plane for big bux to a hot shot pilot and buy a Cessna 150 for the club (and put the difference into a repair fund).

Even if the engine quits cold on you (not a common occurrence with proper maintenance and preflight), it has an enormous glide ratio so you can just float around the sky looking for a nice cow pasture to set it down in. Doesn't take much room to land, handles beautifully with power off so long as you keep the nose down.

Sounds like this pilot either turned too tight or panicked and snatched the nose up if he actually did lose power - either one of those things will destroy lift on the wings and cause you to quit flying abruptly. Even if the engine quit, he should have been able to glide gently down the beach and settle onto the sand or into shallow water.

The NTSB has good investigators, and they will get to the bottom of what happened pretty quickly. My money's on pilot error of some sort.

67 posted on 05/23/2005 6:24:31 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: HairOfTheDog

ping


71 posted on 05/23/2005 8:35:01 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: Conservatrix

'"She feels guilty. Wouldn't you?" said Brother Rene Roy'

No.


77 posted on 05/23/2005 9:52:37 AM PDT by xone
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