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Adult stem cells vs. Embryonic stem cells.
World Net Daily ^ | May 21, 2005 | Dr. Kelly Hollowell

Posted on 05/22/2005 6:08:44 PM PDT by Sun

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Saturday, May 21, 2005

Embryonic stem-cell research: Science boondoggle

By Dr. Kelly Hollowell

Remember in June of 2001 when President Bush announced his plan for federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research? He announced federal dollars could be used to fund research on existing stem-cell lines because the embryos were already destroyed. He drew the line in the sand by saying no additional embryos would be destroyed for stem-cell research using our tax dollars.

It was supposed to be an acceptable compromise between opponents and proponents of this ethically challenged research. Of course, neither side was very happy. The left was appalled by the limitations. The right was concerned about giving the left a proverbial toehold that would lead to an eventual foothold on federal money for human experimentation.

As predicted, proponents now claim the president's stem-cell policy is handcuffing our nation's top scientists, restricting medical research and holding back cures from our loved ones. They also claim that the stem-cell lines available for federal research dollars are inferior to the stem-cell lines created after August 2001.

This has led to H.R. 810, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005. This bill is intended to overturn the Bush policy restricting government funding of ESCR. It is expected to come up for a vote in the House in the next two weeks. And according to D.C. insiders, it is also expected to pass with bipartisan support.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; adultstemcells; cary; embryonicstemcells; hr810; stemcells
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Tell you congresspersons to vote "No" for H.R. 810
1 posted on 05/22/2005 6:08:45 PM PDT by Sun
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To: Sun

This type of research is part of the future of science. I wouldn't want to hamstring our scientists in the face of increasing competition from South Korea, China, and other nations.


2 posted on 05/22/2005 6:15:25 PM PDT by seacapn
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Action Alert, U.S. House votes May 24th on embryo-killing research, H.R. 810

3 posted on 05/22/2005 6:19:01 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: seacapn

China also kills prisoners to harvest their organs, and doesn't kill the prisoner until the very end, because they want the organs to be fresh. So the prisoner KNOWS what's going to happen, and is left frightened until the end.

China was first with killing prisoners for body parts.


4 posted on 05/22/2005 6:24:51 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Coleus

Thanx, Coleus.


5 posted on 05/22/2005 6:26:06 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: All

From the article:

"News Flash – After 20 years of research, embryonic stem cells haven't cured a single lab rat. They haven't been used to treat people because the cells are unproven and unsafe. They tend to produce tumors, cause transplant rejection and form the wrong kinds of cells.

By stark contrast, adult stem cells have treated over 58 diseases in human patients in published clinical studies. Some of the most startling advancements have come in treating Parkinson's disease, juvenile diabetes, and spinal cord injuries. That's right Christopher Reeves fans, people treated with adult stem cells are regaining the use of their legs."


6 posted on 05/22/2005 6:27:08 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Sun

True, but I would distinguish the two situations. An uprooted acorn is not an oak tree.


7 posted on 05/22/2005 6:27:54 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: Sun
Liberal Republican Delaware Congress critter is behind this.

Of all the types of stem cell research [ambilical cord, adult, and embryonic] -- only embryonic has been a total failure and is the only immoral one of the three.

I think God is sending a message there -- if the one that fails offends Him.

Ambilical uses the ambilical cord between the baby and the mother. At birth, the cord is discarded. It has the property that it must interact between the DNA of the mother and the DNA of the baby. It also must handle the blood type of both the baby and the mother.

I believe there is a lot of kickbacks on the embryonic stell cell because of the high failure rate and need for billions of dollars to be flushed down the toilet.

Adult stem cell has proven very inexpensive in terms of research trials -- which is bad news for research centers trying to find money to fund research [if that research is inexpensive and requires curtailing research moneys].

8 posted on 05/22/2005 6:35:42 PM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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To: seacapn
Put your thinking cap on.

Nothing that Bush has done or will do (veto the bill) will prevent any scientist from doing whatever they want with embryonic stem cells.

All Bush is doing is preventing federal funding of embryonic stem cells.

Federal funding means your money & my money.

If embryonic stem cells are such a great scientific advance, why are there not dozens of biotech companies throwing billions of dollars at it?

If there are dozens of biotech companies already throwing billions of dollars at it, why do some insist that my money & your money also fund it?

9 posted on 05/22/2005 6:41:10 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (0cents.com - Pajama Patrol Badges are here!)
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To: seacapn
This type of research is part of the future of science. I wouldn't want to hamstring our scientists in the face of increasing competition from South Korea, China, and other nations.

Yeah, I can see where letting them kill more human babies then we do would be an impediment to our development./sarcasm. The truth is adult stem cells have actually produced benefits where as embryo stem cells have only accomplished the deaths of human babies. You do know that an human embryo is a baby right?

10 posted on 05/22/2005 6:43:44 PM PDT by calex59
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To: seacapn

"True, but I would distinguish the two situations. An uprooted acorn is not an oak tree."

My point is: Why would we want to be ahead of China when it comes to EVIL - all evil.


11 posted on 05/22/2005 6:47:12 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: seacapn
True, but I would distinguish the two situations. An uprooted acorn is not an oak tree.

Your statement is not true. An uprooted acorn is an oak tree albeit a small one. A human embryo will grow to a full size baby if left alone inside a human mother. Symantics will not change that fact. Once a females egg has been fertilized by male sperm and starts to grow it is human and will become a fully formed baby if left to grow just as a acorn will grow to a fully formed oak tree if left alone. In their beginning states they are still oak trees and humans with the full DNA map for their developmen embedded inside them.

12 posted on 05/22/2005 6:55:15 PM PDT by calex59
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Many obviously have a political agenda; otherwise, John Kerry would have supported ADULT stem cells which has helped so many.

But John Kerry never said a word about adult stem cell cures. Lie by omission.


13 posted on 05/22/2005 6:57:00 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: topher

Stem cells remind me of the Garden of Paradise. God gave everything to Adam and Eve that they could possibly want, but the devil told them if they ate from the forbidden apple tree, they would be like God. They disobeyed God and look what happened.

With ADULT stem cells God is already giving us all kinds of cures. But man wants to "play g-d" and destroy life and clone life.


14 posted on 05/22/2005 7:01:51 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: seacapn

FDR should have funnelled money to Mengele, then Joe wouldn't have been hamstrung in his research.


15 posted on 05/22/2005 7:02:19 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Seeking the truth

You are correct, and it reminds me of this snippet from Ann Coulter:

Ironically, the always market-oriented Ronald Reagan would probably have asked his wife, "Honey, if embryonic stem-cell therapy is such a treasure trove of medical advances, why isn't private research and development funding flocking to it?"

President Bush has never said that fetal stem cells cannot be used for research. He said "federal money" cannot be used to fund such research. If leading scientists believed fetal stem-cell research would prove to be so fruitful in curing Alzheimer's, why is the private money not pouring in hand over fist? Do you realize how many billions a cure for Alzheimer's would be worth, let alone all the other cures some are claiming fetal stem-cell research would lead to? Forget Alzheimer's – do you know how much middle-aged men would pay for a genuine baldness cure? Then again, Porsche sales would probably fall off quite a bit if we ever cured baldness.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154820/posts


16 posted on 05/22/2005 7:07:24 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: paradise

Bottom line: It is wrong to destroy one life for the benefit of another.


18 posted on 05/22/2005 7:21:14 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: paradise
I think you are missing the breakthrough of the Koreans. These stem cells are identical in DNA to those of the patients with a wide array of inflictions.

Dr. Frankenstein, I presume.

Adolf Hitler and many others said that the end justified the means. Okay. Do you side with them, or what.

This is a liberal bill created by a liberal Republican.

19 posted on 05/22/2005 7:26:49 PM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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To: paradise
News Flash – After 20 years of research, embryonic stem cells haven't cured a single lab rat. They haven't been used to treat people because the cells are unproven and unsafe. They tend to produce tumors, cause transplant rejection and form the wrong kinds of cells. By stark contrast, adult stem cells have treated over 58 diseases in human patients in published clinical studies. Some of the most startling advancements have come in treating Parkinson's disease, juvenile diabetes, and spinal cord injuries. That's right Christopher Reeves fans, people treated with adult stem cells are regaining the use of their legs. Right here at home, at least three young American women, Laura Dominguez, Susan Fajt and Melissa Holley, who suffered paralysis resulting from spinal cord injuries, regained muscle control thanks to a procedure using adult stem cells taken from their own noses.
20 posted on 05/22/2005 7:27:15 PM PDT by Bostton1 (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have!)
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